AP TF instead of AD Ranged,

[quote=Crazy Smurf]So, me and my mate just recently tried AP TF + Sona in Ranked, on Bottom Lane. We were against Ashe and Soraka. My review: First levels, up to 5, were a bit harder than i expected, not enough burst from my side leaded us to losing a kill on Soraka. Then, I got Boots and another Doran's Ring Extras: AP TF farms so well on Bottom, that's just ridiculous. Moreover, a TF with constant healing and buffs? Yes, please. Healing from Sona as well as her pew-pewing helped me greatly. Ganking. We had, a jungle Yi, I wasn't sure about this, but once I saw Samurai's Yi skin the shit went down. So ye, he was ganking nicely, at right time. Guess what, from level 6, our duo lane, became a scary place. 2x Flash, Ignite and CV. Free CV for my Q, splendid stuns from the bushes with Q on top, + some E and Sona's Burst. Got 2 kills on [[Ashe]] that way, meh, was just too easy. Thanks to our lane pushing and succesful killing, Yi came in with his AS+AD ridiculous combo and we blew that tower just before I hit level 9. Irelia was solo top against Jax, hard piece gotta say, but [[Annie]] + [[Twisted Fate]] ganks are just too good. 2 stuns, high burst, lovely. To sum up: My team was [[Sona]], [[Irelia]], [[Master Yi]], [[Annie]], [[Twisted Fate]]. Everyone starting with some HP items to counter having no tank till late game (didn't get to it :/). 4 characters with a stun, 3 with low CD. IMO, TF caught my attention as an alternative for AD Ranged on duo bot, as he seemed very flexible with me having no exp. in duo bot (i'm not an AD or Support person, AP ftw). Thoughts, criticism, etc? Edit: Ended 8/2/15. Most assists out of 10 people, 2nd in kills.[/quote]

[quote=Pwnzor1130]In NA TF is typically played AP, but in a solo lane. I guess duo-lane would work, especially with Sona or probably Taric (double stun, muahahahahahahaha).[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]well it's viable until they nerf his ulti[/quote]

[quote=Atarios]AP gives the upper hand with [[Wild Cards]] You can join a temafight and keep poking opponents from a far range.[/quote]

[quote=RaNuD]After the changes to his ulti, he should be better in mid lane. Concerning your tactic, it most likely works pretty well, except for one thing : you cannot leave your lane for very long since Sona is NOT able to hold 2 champions. I think it will be harder for you to keep control of your lane/ganks this way, at least if you're playing with a Sona.[/quote]

[quote=Svingas]Wait, so are there decided/posted changes to his Ult at this point?[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]Set range, I believe just enough range to go from mid to top or bot, which makes him especially most viable in mid after this change, so that he can STILL gank freely, whereas being bot, it will be difficult to gank anywhere except mid.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]In any case you want mid or top regardless of the change to his ult because it's essential that you reach 6 as quickly as possible. Level 6 solo lane TF gank on a level 4 bot lane is much, much scarier than a level 6 duo lane TF gank on a level 8 or 9 mid.[/quote]

[quote=Crazy Smurf]Ye, ye. Why everyone already behave like it's post-nerf. Q.Q You guys are mean.[/quote]

[quote=Rudmed]I think TF, would be pretty good with a support like [[sona]] bot lane. AD or AP (due to his flexabillity) I mean lets look at it this way his [[Wild cards]] have a long range enough for farming, or harassing. Though the problem is the predictability you will have. In your case all they had to do is silence/stun you before you picked a gold card. Not to mention your slightly slow movement speed, and short attack range. Not to mention the upcoming ult forcing you mid (Darn you RIOT), while it is a good idea for now after the nerf....you need to go mid to be unpredictable atleast.[/quote]