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wRAthoFVuLK wrote:
what are you talking about reading comprehension...
what does that have to do with your build
I don't build kat like that, I don't even play Katarina.
That's how i WOULD build kat if her passive didn't have CDR on it, and AFTER a remake, where upon her AA animation would be worked on.
Tri lane for life.
You don't know if her auto attack would be fixed.
You make no mention of that.
If the passive was removed it wouldn't change the build, I still cap CDR anyways.
"I would play her similar to now, a bit tankier i guess.
Boots start, rush Rylai's, get sorc shoes, then grab a morello's for some CDR, then Deathcap, finish off the build with GA+Abyssal.
Runes are typical armor/mr seals/glyphs, MPen marks and Flat AP Glyphs.
You could of course, replace the Morello's with a Mejai's, but i'm not too great at staying alive when focused, so i don't usually buy mejai's.
You could also replace Abyssal with a Lich Bane, and focus a lot more on the assassin role."
By saying this you make the reader assume that that is how you build her now.
Also, you argued with me on my Kat guide about lich bane so I know you think it is a great item on her T_T
You make no mention of that.
If the passive was removed it wouldn't change the build, I still cap CDR anyways.
"I would play her similar to now, a bit tankier i guess.
Boots start, rush Rylai's, get sorc shoes, then grab a morello's for some CDR, then Deathcap, finish off the build with GA+Abyssal.
Runes are typical armor/mr seals/glyphs, MPen marks and Flat AP Glyphs.
You could of course, replace the Morello's with a Mejai's, but i'm not too great at staying alive when focused, so i don't usually buy mejai's.
You could also replace Abyssal with a Lich Bane, and focus a lot more on the assassin role."
By saying this you make the reader assume that that is how you build her now.
Also, you argued with me on my Kat guide about lich bane so I know you think it is a great item on her T_T
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wRAthoFVuLK wrote:
You don't know if her auto attack would be fixed.
Also, you argued with me on my Kat guide about lich bane so I know you think it is a great item on her T_T
I also said "if i was doing the rework", i wasn't actually aware that her AA was bad.
Because it is a great item for her mathematically, a bit expensive, but an amazing item for shunpo damage.
If her AA animation is SO bad that she can't use Lich Bane because of it, then Lich Bane isn't your biggest problem, farming, and in general just being a terrible character is your problem.
Tri lane for life.
She isn't a terrible character though...point is you need AP on her, not lich bane.
And with Q she farms easily.
And with Q she farms easily.
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wRAthoFVuLK wrote:
She isn't a terrible character though...point is you need AP on her, not lich bane.
And with Q she farms easily.
So you stack AP on her, and Lich Bane is a BAD item?
So you push to farm, stack AP, get shut down hard by stuns, and rely on getting a kill in order to get more kills?
Why not just play Mordekaiser again?
Tri lane for life.
*facepalm*
she has a totally different kit than Morde
as I just said, her animation is **** so you would lose precious time with lich, plus the mana is useless
with CDR cap you can still Shunpo every few seconds, which is your main source of damage, you don't need other kills to get more T_T
she has a totally different kit than Morde
as I just said, her animation is **** so you would lose precious time with lich, plus the mana is useless
with CDR cap you can still Shunpo every few seconds, which is your main source of damage, you don't need other kills to get more T_T
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wRAthoFVuLK wrote:
*facepalm*
she has a totally different kit than Morde
as I just said, her animation is **** so you would lose precious time with lich, plus the mana is useless
with CDR cap you can still Shunpo every few seconds, which is your main source of damage, you don't need other kills to get more T_T
Nah man.
Both characters are anti-carries, both characters rely on getting a kill to get the next kill, and both characters are easily shut down by CC.
The mana? THE MANA? IT'S ****ING LICH BANE. It would add almost 600 damage to your Shunpo if you used it in place of Zhonya's in your build. Shunpo has a 3.6s cd at cap, so you will be making very good use of it.
No one's AA animation is THAT bad.
Tri lane for life.
Dude
legit
you LOSE time
trying to attack
it just isn't worth it
you need the other items more
IE you say take out Zhonya's, eh?
Then you have less armor, die quicker, less AP, do less damage with abilities, and no Zhonya's active which can save your *** so much it ain't even funneh.
legit
you LOSE time
trying to attack
it just isn't worth it
you need the other items more
IE you say take out Zhonya's, eh?
Then you have less armor, die quicker, less AP, do less damage with abilities, and no Zhonya's active which can save your *** so much it ain't even funneh.
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She needs a slight tweak to her ultimate. She can rape face in high ELO as the last pick. IF the team opposing team brings little or no CC. ((Highly unlikely but I'm sure it has happened)).
The CDR and Gold Bonus on Kill are what make Katarina a great assassin. She can snowball in a teamfight if not CCd properly, plain and simple. But there in lies the issue, the number of champions capable of preventing or stopping her ult out number the number of ways to protect it....Banshee's veil is about it. And that only stops one attack, so it isn't all that great.
Kat takes positioning and timing to pull off her job. A slight tweak to her ult to make her more viable at all ELOs:
-Make it like a Rogue's Fan of Knives. Rather than be a channeled ulti let it be an instant AoE. She activates it, and for ~10 seconds she can utilize 3-5 charges by pressing the R button until all charges are gone or the time runs out. These charges shoot out a bunch of daggers in an AoE around her.
-Reduce the base damage of each rank of the attack.
-While Death Lotus is active Kat recieves damage reduction.
-Remove Damage reduction from Killer Instincts+Shunpo
-Make Killer Instincts+Shunpo maybe increase her movespeed for 5-8 seconds after a shunpo?
-Keep the CDR+Gold from kills the same. This in effect would not effect her new Ulti as much as it does now IF her ulti required charges to be stored. This would make Kat's ult feel more important, but also add a layer of difficulty in how to manage it. Say the ulti had a 35 second CD, within those 35 seconds you could score kills or assists to reset the CD, but maybe you only had 2 charges. By adding a bit of an artifical CD coupled with an actual one each time a player opted to use Kat's ult. It would be a more important choice, it would prevent Kat from Pubstomping as hard, but allow for High Elo fans of her to use her and not feel like it was as big a gamble.
The CDR and Gold Bonus on Kill are what make Katarina a great assassin. She can snowball in a teamfight if not CCd properly, plain and simple. But there in lies the issue, the number of champions capable of preventing or stopping her ult out number the number of ways to protect it....Banshee's veil is about it. And that only stops one attack, so it isn't all that great.
Kat takes positioning and timing to pull off her job. A slight tweak to her ult to make her more viable at all ELOs:
-Make it like a Rogue's Fan of Knives. Rather than be a channeled ulti let it be an instant AoE. She activates it, and for ~10 seconds she can utilize 3-5 charges by pressing the R button until all charges are gone or the time runs out. These charges shoot out a bunch of daggers in an AoE around her.
-Reduce the base damage of each rank of the attack.
-While Death Lotus is active Kat recieves damage reduction.
-Remove Damage reduction from Killer Instincts+Shunpo
-Make Killer Instincts+Shunpo maybe increase her movespeed for 5-8 seconds after a shunpo?
-Keep the CDR+Gold from kills the same. This in effect would not effect her new Ulti as much as it does now IF her ulti required charges to be stored. This would make Kat's ult feel more important, but also add a layer of difficulty in how to manage it. Say the ulti had a 35 second CD, within those 35 seconds you could score kills or assists to reset the CD, but maybe you only had 2 charges. By adding a bit of an artifical CD coupled with an actual one each time a player opted to use Kat's ult. It would be a more important choice, it would prevent Kat from Pubstomping as hard, but allow for High Elo fans of her to use her and not feel like it was as big a gamble.
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what does that have to do with your build