ITT: Skarner's Ult comparisons

[quote=Trojan995][quote=theBMB] [quote=JunSupport] An ultimate should never be something seriously spammable. That makes it have less impact. It needs to be something you save for the right moments. Even the lowest cooldown ultimate - [[Shadow Dance]] is limited to 3 uses in a row with the exception of heavy killing sprees that go up to 5~7. [/quote] you seem to have forgotten about kog'maw's, kassadin's, and corki's ult [/quote] Corki's ultimate has a reservoir system much like akali's. Kog'maw's ultimate is limited by his mana pool, and his general inability to expand on said mana pool viably (only AP kog can really ult spam). You're right about kassadin though. These champions are the exception, not the rule. Skarner isn't the kind of champion who should have a spammable ultimate, it's just not in his design.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@theBMB: Kog'Maw, Kassadin, and Corki also fall under Akali's example. Kog'Maw is best played as DPS, which typically has no mana pool. You have to ration it. Kassadin has a longer cooldown. Corki has has charge-limitations on [[Missile Barrage]] Also, lower cooldown abilities are typically set towards the theme of the champion. -Kog'Maw is designed to be an Artillery type champion (I read a Riot designer state that), he's suppose to bombard the enemy and basically induce mini-shell-shock-syndrome. "OMG, MAKE IT STOP!" -Kassadin has a roaming space assassin sort of deal going on. So, his ultimate needs to be usable often so he can jump in quick and burst down targets. If you'll notice, without special circumstances, each of these abilities lack impact. They're just useful. They're do not possess to the "LET'S DO THIS" feel of using [[Curse of the Sad Mummy]], [[Absolute Zero]], [[Cataclysm]], [[Unstoppable Force]], [[Enchanted Crystal Arrow]], [[Paranoia]], [[Soul Shackles]], [[Cannon Barrage]], [[Chrono Shift]], [[Demacian Justice]], [[Ragnarok]], [[Undying Rage]] and many other abilities that have a far more emotionally satisfying peak to their use.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]skarners ult has the LETS DO THIS feel of those others you mentioned, but without their power imo.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@caucheka: It does have a bit of a "LET'S DO THIS!" I'd have to disagree about the power. I just think his q/w/e kit is overall underpowered (stat-wise) and his Ultimate would function much better, both as an ability and to the experience of playing him as a champion, if it were a normal ability. [[Impale]] has plenty of power. It's just some design flaws, like how he can't cast the abilities he needs to spam while it's being used for effective follow-up if you're on your own. It's more of a "GO GO GO!... How anti-climatic" feeling if your team isn't well prepared to capitalize on the moment you create. Also, my post before this one is the argue against making [[Crystal Slash]] his ultimate.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Or they just remove his ult and you can choose which to lvl up like on [[udyr]]. Then decrase the cd of his [[impale]].[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@NicknameMy: That would require a massive rework on his kit to make it balanced.[/quote]

[quote=Rudmed][quote=NicknameMy] Or they just remove his ult and you can choose which to lvl up like on [[udyr]]. Then decrase the cd of his [[impale]]. [/quote] Yeah...I'd really hate to see a skarner spam [[fracture]] and heal up. It would be [[fracture]] into [[crystal slash]] = SUPER HEALS![/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]The [[fracture]] cd should be the same. Only the cd of [[impale]] get reduced to 14(or something like that). The only thing that have to be changed is that [[impale]] can now be 5 times lvled.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@NicknameMy: You're not thinking through to the ramifications of such a change. It's be OP. Plain and simple. OP.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]maybe 30 seconds cd?[/quote]