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ITT: Skarner's Ult comparisons

Creator: JunSupport August 29, 2011 6:33pm
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If they want to make Skarner good quickly, all they need to do is buff the base damages on Q.

If they want to take some time to make Skarner better, they will buff his Q and his ult.

If they want to really take the time to make him good, they will move around his skills.

I just thought of something kind of cool.

What if Crystal Slash was Skarner's ult? It would pretty much be the same as it is now, but better stats ofc. Then Impale could be on a low CD as well as crystal slash. The big problem I can see with this is that it ****s up his jungle, though it would GREATLY increase his gank potential.
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I've played as Skarner during the free week and he is really weak. The game suggests a hybrid tank build, but idk, hes weak and doesnt tank very well.

The best advantage of his ult is:

He can choose the target (Blitz cant)
He doesnt need to be hugging the enemy to pull (Singed does)

But its far from being a great ult.
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My idea is to buff his ult is that Impale "greatly" decreases the victim's armor/MR which would make them easier for your team to kill and separate that skill from Fling or Rocket Arm Grab.

Another idea would be absorbing the some of the victim's AD/AP permanently(or as a duration buff) sort of like veigar/nasus's Q for last hitting.
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Kanohi wrote:

My idea is to buff his ult is that Impale "greatly" decreases the victim's armor/MR which would make them easier for your team to kill and separate that skill from Fling or Rocket Arm Grab.

Another idea would be absorbing the some of the victim's AD/AP permanently(or as a duration buff) sort of like veigar/nasus's Q for last hitting.


Yeah, that'd help a lot. It'll ensure a kill when you grab someone.

If permanently, it cant be a % and the amount must be very very low, cause his passive reduces de CDs. It'll be easy to spam the ult to get AD/AP.
During the buff duration is a nice idea.
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Skarner sucks, agreed, moving on.

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gwadzila wrote:

What if Crystal Slash was Skarner's ult? It would pretty much be the same as it is now, but better stats ofc. Then Impale could be on a low CD as well as crystal slash. The big problem I can see with this is that it ****s up his jungle, though it would GREATLY increase his gank potential.



An ultimate should never be something seriously spammable. That makes it have less impact.
It needs to be something you save for the right moments.

Even the lowest cooldown ultimate - Shadow Dance is limited to 3 uses in a row with the exception of heavy killing sprees that go up to 5~7.


I'd like to see Seismic Bastion be Skarner's ultimate and became something like this.

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Skarner receives a shield for up to 15 seconds which blocks 400/700/1000 (+100% of ability power) damage. While the shield persists Skarner grows in size, increasing the range of all his abilities proportionally, his movement speed is increased by 15 / 20 / 25%, and his attack speed is increased by 20 / 35 / 50%.

Skarner's auto-attacks and abilities also replenish the shield up to it's current cap for up to 15% of their damage.


The shield-replenishment would to prevent the shield from getting bursted down too quickly.
Cooldown would be something like 120/110/100 seconds.
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ZioSerpe wrote:

Skarner sucks, agreed, moving on.


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JunSupport wrote:


An ultimate should never be something seriously spammable. That makes it have less impact.
It needs to be something you save for the right moments.

Even the lowest cooldown ultimate - Shadow Dance is limited to 3 uses in a row with the exception of heavy killing sprees that go up to 5~7.



you seem to have forgotten about kog'maw's, kassadin's, and corki's ult
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Yeah, that'd help a lot. It'll ensure a kill when you grab someone.

If permanently, it cant be a % and the amount must be very very low, cause his passive reduces de CDs. It'll be easy to spam the ult to get AD/AP.
During the buff duration is a nice idea.


The first one would a true ultimate skill that can change the tide of a team fight/game but can still easily be countered by the likes of treads, QSS or Cleanse...but quite powerful in my opinion between early-mid game. (will also need to increase the CD on it I think)

My 2nd idea came from boosting his damage capability throughout every stage of the game and probably works better (in theory) given his low CD.

Think either idea would make skarner more unique and interesting for sure.
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theBMB wrote:



you seem to have forgotten about kog'maw's, kassadin's, and corki's ult

Kog and Kass spmming their ults? Goodbye mana pool.
Corki spamming his ult is only for farming.


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