Rise of the fall of the offtanks.

[quote=Searz]In low elo it's hard to counter them. That's why they're so popular (most players are low elo). Against good enemies they're not all that.. Good ofc, but far from overpowered.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport][quote=DuffTime] There really isn't a way to counter this. It's like asking, "How do I counter ranged AD carries?" Things like this will be stronger or weaker depending on the flow of the meta game. If you want to be able to 1v1 an offtank, build a tanky DPS geared towards speed and damage, with life steal, and that tends to do well against a sturdy offtank. [/quote] Actually... This is how Riot works it: -An AD Carry's job is to be able to tear up tanky-dps and casters. -Assassins, Tanky DPS (anti-carry), and Casters are to find and blow up the enemy ad carry. -It's a Tank's job to find and aggro all-the-above so allies can do their job better. This is all however, after-the-matter of focusing down the enemy MVP. As we all know it's not always the carry or tanky-dps that need focusing. So, if you want to counter an AD carry, you play an Assassin, Tanky DPS, or Caster. If you want to be the one that wipes out the tanky-dps or assassins/casters, you play a Carry. If you just wanna cause lots of chaos. Play a tank.[/quote]

[quote=Yukimaru][quote=DuffTime] There really isn't a way to counter this. [b]It's like asking, "How do I counter ranged AD carries?"[/b] Things like this will be stronger or weaker depending on the flow of the meta game. If you want to be able to 1v1 an offtank, build a tanky DPS geared towards speed and damage, with life steal, and that tends to do well against a sturdy offtank. [/quote] Thornmail, Frozen Heart, Randuins Omen[/quote]

[quote=Joobieo#41288]Having a tanky team vs a real team comp at low elo is a easy win most of the time, because people don't know how to position themselves or kite the opposing team.[/quote]

[quote=Dante Rebellion]imo. Beat a tanky DPS with another tanky DPS. I mean you can say that AD Carries will counter the tanky DPS, but that is far from true... Many times a tanky DPS can just take the damage and pummel you down. Because most tanky DPS champions offer more CC than pure AD Carries which can also mean that the tanky DPS has a ton of utility. For example... Vayne vs Irelia... 8 times out of 10 a good Irelia will be able to pummel vayne mid-late game. There are however other off-tanks that just dont have it in them to 1v1 an AD Melee An example of this would be Master Yi vs Jarvan. Jarvan can barely 1v1, he is more of a team fighter who provides CC and takes punishment. It really is dependent on the off-tank that you are trying to kill. Sometimes champions like Cho'Gath are near impossible to 1v1 at a certain point in the game.[/quote]

[quote=Maphis]Jax counters most tanky dps. Ranged AD on top works aswell, vayne, corki and caithlyn. Certain mages work against certain tanky champs especially champs that push hard like annivia.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis]Malz, Vayne, Kog, Jax (if you want a fight fire with fire approach), most champions with a % armour/MR shred, Amumu My brain is dry of thoughts right now.[/quote]

[quote=Baxxie]Play AP Cho'Gath.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]No, full tank HotshotCho'GathGG is better^^(can s.b. make a graphic for that?^^). Steal baron's and let the enemies fear you.[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn][quote=Joobieo] Having a tanky team vs a real team comp at low elo is a easy win most of the time, because people don't know how to position themselves or kite the opposing team. [/quote] I got a team like this once: Morde (me), Mundo, Nunu, Shen and MF [b]VS[/b] Pantheon, Malphite, Nasus, Shaco and GP. We were in total advantage, they couldnt kill us. After some time, Nasus ragequitted and we won. Answering the thread: play as Poppy, Vayne, Cho[/quote]