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[quote=JunSupport]Twitch is only unviable for two reasons. 1 - Oracles 2 - His attack range His kit is actually still plenty strong for an AD carry. People just assumed he was weak because of the nerfs and always looking for high-elo viable champions. Twitch can rule over low and mid elo quite effectively. He's getting back his aa range after the rework too.[/quote]

[quote=Symphunny][quote=JunSupport] Twitch is only unviable for two reasons. 1 - Oracles 2 - His attack range His kit is actually still plenty strong for an AD carry. People just assumed he was weak because of the nerfs and always looking for high-elo viable champions. Twitch can rule over low and mid elo quite effectively. He's getting back his aa range after the rework too. [/quote] when is the rework coming? o:[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]Don't know anymore. They're back to the drawing board on Twitch's kit tweaks because of the heavy feedback against making [[Expunge]] his ultimate. They're liking his current kit (with the new stealth system), so they're going to see how they can work with that. Best estimate would be to check back on the Live-Design Status thread 4 patches from now. (2 monthes~)[/quote]

[quote=Xaioli]Twitch is considered "underpowered" due to the fact that he is outshined by other AD Champions. Anyone that knows me a bit when it comes to LoL knows that I'm all about AD Champions. In comparison to stronger AD Champions like Corki and Caitlyn, he has no chance. Twitch has always been "fine" even when Riot nerfed his Spray and Pray and etc. It's just that other AD champions have been getting stronger while Twitch has not. Twitch is excellent in ganking and to pick off unprepared players. Twitch has viability in all levels of play but he's strongest in low elo and weakest in high elo. Twitch's skill sets allow him to easily pick enemies off that are unwary of the present threat. Hell, catching a narrow enemy team in a small choke is begging to get Spray and Prayed. You might as well rename that narrow alley "Penta-Kill Alley". Twitch's weakness is obviously is squishiness. Twitch has no real escape spell except for his stealth that is easily hunted down by Oracles/Vision Wards/the 2 seconds needed before complete stealth. No matter how tanky you build Twitch, he was naturally made squishy but he obviously has that glass cannon feel. My outdated guide gives Twitch the most survivalbility while still dealing heaps of damage. Cleanse, Flash, Banshees/Quicksilver should last you a whole team fight or enough time to shoot some deadly killing blows. Hope this helped. PS: AP Twitch is obviously also outshined in the world of AP champions. Look at Brand, Annie, Orianna, Gragas, etc.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]What Xai said basically. But, I mean, there are still some people who carry with him to plat...I just played with Vampyro and ramboxstyle the last few days, 2 of the top twitches...if you look at rambo's ranked stats, last season around 2000 ranked games, and around 75% with twitch I think...l0l and he was like 2150 too.[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn]Hes not a bad champion, but his ult is just useless in many situations. And the stealth takes 1.something sec without being hit to activate, so theres a chance that you'll die and not get hidden.[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot]I just played him a normal game (first pvp with him) and realised that he is COMPLETELY reliant on items for damage. His expunge sucks unless you go ap, and his attacks suck if you don't go ad. Slow is fine though and ulti has one use and that is clearing minion waves with lantern and shooting through ;) But we won at least.[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn][quote=Crows foot] I just played him a normal game (first pvp with him) and realised that he is COMPLETELY reliant on items for damage. His expunge sucks unless you go ap, and his attacks suck if you don't go ad. Slow is fine though and ulti has one use and that is clearing minion waves with lantern and shooting through ;) But we won at least. [/quote] Last time I played as Twitch, his expunge was dealing a good damage, but that was some months ago. I'll search to see if they nerfed it. No, we used the same expunge. Well, people have different opinions.[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot][quote=TheJohn] [quote=Crows foot] I just played him a normal game (first pvp with him) and realised that he is COMPLETELY reliant on items for damage. His expunge sucks unless you go ap, and his attacks suck if you don't go ad. Slow is fine though and ulti has one use and that is clearing minion waves with lantern and shooting through ;) But we won at least. [/quote] Last time I played as Twitch, his expunge was dealing a good damage, but that was some months ago. I'll search to see if they nerfed it. No, we used the same expunge. Well, people have different opinions. [/quote] I'd say 150 at lvl 5 aint much. It only works decent if you have good stacks on passive. So MAX for lvl 5 expunge is 510 damage without AP. Remove from that any damagerduction,,,[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn][quote=Crows foot] [quote=TheJohn] [quote=Crows foot] I just played him a normal game (first pvp with him) and realised that he is COMPLETELY reliant on items for damage. His expunge sucks unless you go ap, and his attacks suck if you don't go ad. Slow is fine though and ulti has one use and that is clearing minion waves with lantern and shooting through ;) But we won at least. [/quote] Last time I played as Twitch, his expunge was dealing a good damage, but that was some months ago. I'll search to see if they nerfed it. No, we used the same expunge. Well, people have different opinions. [/quote] I'd say 150 at lvl 5 aint much. It only works decent if you have good stacks on passive. So MAX for lvl 5 expunge is 510 damage without AP. Remove from that any damagerduction,,, [/quote] Yeah, the damage reduction is pretty useful, but if you try to kill Ryze or another squishy thing, that'll hit hard.[/quote]