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Atmog's + Trifoce is a copy pasted build there are very few AD champions that will not be successful with this build and now that Nidalee has been proven to benifit from this build people will start think about who can't benifit from this build and looking at the 80+ champions: I see a lot that can.
Atmog's + Trifoce is a copy pasted build there are very few AD champions that will not be successful with this build and now that Nidalee has been proven to benifit from this build people will start think about who can't benifit from this build and looking at the 80+ champions: I see a lot that can.
Lugignaf wrote:
I thought it would be Fratmogs trinity Veigar.
Guess I was wrong...
Nah, bro, he needs it to last hit. He's terrible at it. >_>

AP nidalee is not that bad, you just need to land some Godlike spears or go in the melee range to do damage. I recommended
Guinsoo's Rageblade in every build, because the awesome spamming the cougar form has.
Lich Bane is a no-brainer.


AP Nid can definitely build Atma's+Triforce but I personally feel that her niche is as a poker with blue buff. In CA vs. GER game one, Hotshot carried the entire team with post-change Nidalee by just poking and securing kills and teamfights, turning the entire game around.





I faced a Nidalee that went warmogs,fom,randuin, i forget the rest xD but she was legendary and it took our whole team to kill her..the most frustrating thing ever, but with that said she can't carry her team just being tanky so we did win after like a 50 min game.
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I usually rush Triforce on my Nid, followed up by either Gunblade or tanky items(Maybe even Atmogs) and I can rape teams.
It came up because it works, doesn't matter if she was designed to be an AP poker, Sion was designed to be an AD champ and yet ppl are building him AP successfully.
And no, there are not "a lot" that can get away successfully with an Atmogs+Triforce build, because it's super expensive, there are better Builds for many champions, and you need high base damage and a low cd ability to capitalize from Triforce. Even if ~50% of solo top champs get Atmogs OR Triforce (Because they are pretty much the only ones who can get that unless you have a really fed jungler and you won't see many with both, because it's just THAT expensive), it's not a must. Even Irelia, who was considered being the best Triforce champ, doesn't need Triforce at all.
I don't know who you looked at and found that you can build this on "a lot" of champs successfully.
It came up because it works, doesn't matter if she was designed to be an AP poker, Sion was designed to be an AD champ and yet ppl are building him AP successfully.
And no, there are not "a lot" that can get away successfully with an Atmogs+Triforce build, because it's super expensive, there are better Builds for many champions, and you need high base damage and a low cd ability to capitalize from Triforce. Even if ~50% of solo top champs get Atmogs OR Triforce (Because they are pretty much the only ones who can get that unless you have a really fed jungler and you won't see many with both, because it's just THAT expensive), it's not a must. Even Irelia, who was considered being the best Triforce champ, doesn't need Triforce at all.
I don't know who you looked at and found that you can build this on "a lot" of champs successfully.
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There is a shift in the meta on top lane towards AP bruisers lately (combining EU and NA strategies). This is seen with Gragas or Sion who can build RoA or a single AP item and then tanky and still have massive utility and good damage to offer.
As far as the Nidalee changes: AP Nidalee is just fine, but when you build Atmog's you can go into fights and take advantage of your rework. She also had an aspd steroid, which takes advantage of increased damage. Because of your new ability to get into fights and live combined with old information not taken advantage of (aspd boost) in the AP builds, you have a new way to build her. Is AP useless? No. Is Atmog's better than sliced bread? Not really. But both builds are now viable, which is more innovation than simply "Go Rageblade into DCap, bra"
As far as the Nidalee changes: AP Nidalee is just fine, but when you build Atmog's you can go into fights and take advantage of your rework. She also had an aspd steroid, which takes advantage of increased damage. Because of your new ability to get into fights and live combined with old information not taken advantage of (aspd boost) in the AP builds, you have a new way to build her. Is AP useless? No. Is Atmog's better than sliced bread? Not really. But both builds are now viable, which is more innovation than simply "Go Rageblade into DCap, bra"
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I really don't think the metagame is shifting to a certain type of champion type controlling a lane. I think it's shifting to champ matchups that benefit each other. For example, there can be a team which has massive AoE damage, Defend-the-Kog, Disrupting, poking, etc. I think the current meta is in a really stable place right now. It's just about how to counter each individual champ and how team comps benefit each other.
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