Removal of Flash

[quote=JACN][quote=caucheka] the reverse of cleanse? you mean exhaust? [/quote] Exhaust isn't the reverse of cleanse. It's the reverse of......Melee stuff. lol[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]lol well cleanse removes debuffs from yourself. exhaust adds debuffs to the enemy kinda the opposite.[/quote]

[quote=JACN][quote=caucheka] lol well cleanse removes debuffs from yourself. exhaust adds debuffs to the enemy kinda the opposite. [/quote] That's like how bananas are sweet and lemons are sour, but they're both yellow... You know............................................what the hell was my point again? Never mind...[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]There have been suggestions thrown around like the implementation of items that give flash-like abilities, but nerfed so you can't use them within 5 seconds of taking damage. That makes it purely an initiation skill and also makes it harder to get early game. One thing I do not want to see is Flash Boots. Boots are already a centralized part of the metagame. With Flash Boots, champions can essentially pack Flash, Ghost, and Cleanse, making Flash Boots essential on most melee champions just for the sake of catching up to these guys. Just as boots integrate themselves into the game, Flash Boots will quickly become essential, and nobody wants that. I'm fine with Riot just removing Flash. Just as long as they release Magma Chamber ^_^[/quote]

[quote=Alahric]JACN, I think you were suggesting what's better known as "PURGE".. It removes all beneficial stats from the enemy... + slow <- But would it be OP? Dispel is more like removing negative stats on your allies, there is a difference ^ ^'[/quote]

[quote=JACN][quote=Alahric] JACN, I think you were suggesting what's better known as "PURGE".. It removes all beneficial stats from the enemy... + slow <- But would it be OP? Dispel is more like removing negative stats on your allies, there is a difference ^ ^' [/quote] Sorry I was thinking in D&D terms I suppose. Dispel removes all magical effects from the target or negative affects from a friendly. Granted you wouldn't want that as it's basically cleanse. A spell that could remove all buffs from an enemy and keep them off for 3 seconds(Then they would come back after 3 seconds) and thats all it does would be cool. Could be used to stop Tryns ulti or Yi's, or Mundos. After 3 seconds their ultis would continue. So if Trynds ult [[undying rage]] lasts for 6 seconds he pops it, and you nail him with Dispel(or Whatever) it would FREEZE his ulti for 3 seconds allowing you to kill him, but if you fail to kill him it would wear off and his ulti would resume with 3 seconds left. I know I don't explain it well, but it could be used in a lot of different ways. Make Mords shield not work for 3 seconds, stop teemo from using his getaway for 3 seconds. Honestly I haven't thought of a balanced duration for it, but this spell has so many uses.[/quote]

[quote=SixSonatas]So what you're saying is we should have more summoner spells that make ults useless I think that's going a bit too far; exhaust already counters Trynd HARD and all other auto attack-related ults like Yi and Twitch[/quote]

[quote=Diesel]Simple solution: Make Flash not eat spells. They don't need to remove it if it didn't breathtakingly just remove spells/ultimates from thin air.[/quote]

[quote=JACN][quote=SixSonatas] So what you're saying is we should have more summoner spells that make ults useless I think that's going a bit too far; exhaust already counters Trynd HARD and all other auto attack-related ults like Yi and Twitch [/quote] For 3 seconds, yup... I don't see the problem with this.[/quote]

[quote=SixSonatas][quote=JACN] For 3 seconds, yup... I don't see the problem with this. [/quote] You really don't see the problem? Of how people can pack [[Exhaust]] with your Dispel/Purge and COMPLETELY render Twitch (ult/AS), Yi (ult/Wuju/meditation), Tryndamere (bloodlust/ult), Mundo (ult/agony/dmg buff), Evelynn (ult), Jax (ult), Kayle (justice/especially her ult), Kog'Maw (bioarcane), Rammus (powerball/defense stance/ ult), Sivir (ult), Taric (ult) and pretty much all other abilities/ults that involve buffs useless? There's a reason ultimates get long cooldowns, and with Dispel as an ability, you might as well leave ultimate abilities at level 0.[/quote]