Are AD carry builds THIS static?

[quote=caucheka]ok let me rephrase this. corki and ezreal in my opinion are not ad carries but ad casters (moreso ezreal but w/e), so to me i wasnt thinking of them. if you consider them to be carries then that is fine. i'm talking shit like graves or sivir. so bad.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Sivir, meh. You can build it on her and it's effective because of ricochet but it's not the "I get this every game" item on her.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]the point of ricochet is to have your attack bounce and hit multiple enemies. shes better with building flat damage as that will increase her damage on all dos bounces.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]The sheen proc, and all other on-hits, apply on every bounce of ricochet. Just sayin.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]no, just the first target. [[ricochet]][/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]tri-force is a good slot-filler on sivir. Zeal->Ie->PD->BT->LW->Tri-force->BT[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]i'd rather just get another bloodthirster.[/quote]

[quote=Zell][quote=caucheka] ok let me rephrase this. corki and ezreal in my opinion are not ad carries but ad casters (moreso ezreal but w/e), so to me i wasnt thinking of them. if you consider them to be carries then that is fine. i'm talking shit like graves or sivir. so bad. [/quote] [[Corki]] & [[Ezreal]] aren't AD carries but AD casters? Mind = Blown. Ironically enough [[Kog'maw]] is the most viable AP caster [b]and[/b] AD carry. On a side note I've heard of some people building [[Trinity Force]] on [[Vayne]] in glass-cannon sort of direction, haven't done so myself but at the same time don't look down on these who do.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden][quote=caucheka] i'd rather just get another bloodthirster. [/quote] ppl think u get it for the sheen proc, i think it's just a nice bonus. BT gives no AS, it gives NO Crit, does not give a slow proc, does not give MS, does not give health, does not give mana, does not give AP(yeah i know ap is not much but her boomerang scales with ap as well ^^).[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=Zell] [quote=tehAsian] It actually gives decent AD :p about 70 total fully charged, I think. [/quote] Yet you still lose AD in comparison to what you could have had with [[The Bloodthirster]] not even taking into account the Lifesteal on it. [/quote] bloodthirster is riskier, especially considering you need stacks for it to be stronger than Manamune and they drop whenever you die. Not to mention you make yourself more of a tagret for ganks. in any case, champions like [[Ezreal]] and [[Urgot]] who can charge it very quickly and/or cheaper it is a better option than rushing a bloodthirster. With that said, I wouldn't build it on ezreal, however I frequently do build it on Urgot. I feel it's very necessary on Urgot, especially considering you usually build Frozen Heart already it makes it very effective. ------- I also have a problem with people rushing [[Trinity Force]]. A lot people don't realize that Tri-Force provides utility as opposed to damage. I can't remember the total cost but I think it's something like 4170 if thats right? (correct me if I'm Wrong). As opposed to [[The Bloodthirster]] which is only 3000 or [[Infinity Edge]] for 3830. While both are cheaper, and don't provide quite the utility they do provide alot of damage. For the laning phase, I would never want to rush a Trinity Force against Someone who rushed a Bloodthirster and lets say a Zeal because the costs are identical. The person who rushed Bloodthirster/Zeal would be so much stronger just because they're building for damage, lifesteal, and AS which are all far superior in 1v1 terms on an AD carry than the stats provided by Trinity Force[/quote]