Tips for Udyr?

[quote=AFKwithyoursister][quote=Luther3000] ^ Well that's what you get when you ask an extremely general question without offering any information to work with. :P What things is it exactly you're having problems with? [/quote] Being able to secure a gank most of the time. I jungle Phoenix (RWRE) and run ghost. Most of the time I pop ghost and fly out of bush, but it seems like most of the time I don't secure a kill.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Well, Udyr's not the best ganker in the first place. You should definitely use [[Flash]] though. [[Flash]] + [[Bear stance]] is a very strong combo when your laner is paying attention and can often result in kills, especially in mid lane. Otherwise just make sure you're avoiding wards and coming from behind the enemy when possible. Remember that a gank doesn't necessarily have to result in a kill to be successful. I'm not that good at ganking on him either, except the time I did a baws gank by running through the lane brush in bot and got our AD a double kill. :D[/quote]

[quote=Pineberry][quote=AFKwithyoursister] [quote=Luther3000] ^ Well that's what you get when you ask an extremely general question without offering any information to work with. :P What things is it exactly you're having problems with? [/quote] Being able to secure a gank most of the time. I jungle Phoenix (RWRE) and run ghost. Most of the time I pop ghost and fly out of bush, but it seems like most of the time I don't secure a kill. [/quote] First off if you're against a team that will just kite you(*COUGH*[[Ashe]]*COUGH*) then don't pick Udyr because he will get no ganks off. Second like Luther3000 said above, take [[Flash]] instead of [[Ghost]]. Ghost is nice, but the enemy will just throw CC into your face. [[Flash]] has that great surprise factor and instantaneous distance closing that makes it better in comparison to Ghost. Otherwise, just keep playing Udyr because he's incredibly strong and just smacks shit.[/quote]

[quote=AFKwithyoursister][quote=Pineberry] [quote=AFKwithyoursister] [quote=Luther3000] ^ Well that's what you get when you ask an extremely general question without offering any information to work with. :P What things is it exactly you're having problems with? [/quote] Being able to secure a gank most of the time. I jungle Phoenix (RWRE) and run ghost. Most of the time I pop ghost and fly out of bush, but it seems like most of the time I don't secure a kill. [/quote] First off if you're against a team that will just kite you(*COUGH*[[Ashe]]*COUGH*) then don't pick Udyr because he will get no ganks off. Second like Luther3000 said above, take [[Flash]] instead of [[Ghost]]. Ghost is nice, but the enemy will just throw CC into your face. [[Flash]] has that great surprise factor and instantaneous distance closing that makes it better in comparison to Ghost. Otherwise, just keep playing Udyr because he's incredibly strong and just smacks shit. [/quote] Yeah I'll definitely start trying out flash. Thanks for the tips.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Flash or Exhaust are both good. Also, if you want "stronger" ganks, run Tiger Udyr. A lot of your damage is front-loaded in that Q proc. You just run out with E on, slap their shit, Q for the proc and proceed to ruin their day! Exhaust is also better for chasing down fast enemies or enemies who can kite you rather easily.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]Get Phage. Potentially on Both Udyr's, but mainly Tiger.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]People are always debating which is better for jungle; phoenix has a slightly faster clear time due to the AoE procs but your ganks almost inherently require the lane you're going for to have some additional CC (like a Taric ranged stun) as well as it needs to be pushed toward your teams side of the lane. The reason for this is because of the 3 AAs it takes to proc the phoenix stance effect. Tiger on the other hand has the damage front loaded so you're more likely to burst the enemy down. Both are viable options IMO, I prefer tiger because I feel Udyr is an early game gank machine that way. If you're having issues with ganks and you're running phoenix it's most likely not your fault. The issue lies in the fact that you're not getting enough ToT (time on target) to get the proc off. This could be due to your team mate not tossing CC out if they have it, or some other factor. I'd strongly reccommend running Flash over Ghost on Udyr. Some people use it because it works well with bear stance, but the ability to Flash+Stun outweighs your chase mode. But it would be helpful if there were more specifics to go off of.[/quote]

[quote=BusDriver210]I prefer [[Ghost]] over [[Flash]]. Flash will give you an element of surprise, but once you have burst your "trump card" its all over. Taking Ghost means your going to work harder for your ganks, but come teamfight time you are RIDICULOUSLY strong. Try ganking top from tri-bush when you have ghost. [[Tiger stance]] beats [[phoenix stance]] in straight out burst, but that doesn't mean you can't gank with phoenix. Try ganking at level 3 after you red buff. Take bear at 3 over turtle, gank, go back to farming. Remember that a successful gank doesn't have to be a kill. Making your enemies use their summoners is a win in my book. Udyr can pressure like the best, but securing a kill early is a problem against certain lanes.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Actually I believe their damage out put is comperable, but tiger stance has direct single target front loaded burst whereas phoenix is AoE over time. Nothing wrong with Ghost, but most opposing carries/solos run flash. You can't ghost over a wall to catch/escape someone, that's why it's in my opinion, infinitely better on 85% of champions opposed to ghost. But we all have our preference.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]I would only even consider not taking [[Flash]] on a champion who already has a blink ability. And I definitely wouldn't swap it for [[Ghost]].[/quote]