Yorick: The infinite sustain douchebag, and how...

[quote=Kurt_Ottman]True, I take offense. Because last time I checked, I said items, not runes. So yes, I take armor runes on [[Yorick]] most of the time, unless I'm trying to counter a magic based champion. But that still leaves you with too small amount of defense, Sion's AA's really hurt early game if he gets AD quints and armor pen reds. Here's what's wrong with your idea: [[Yorick]] needs constant mana, to stay in lane for a longer period of time. Most of the [[Yorick]]s I know, build [[Manamune]] to compensate for the lack of mana. That means rushing [[Tear of the goddess]] in the beginning, which leaves him with almost no defense. And if you spam [[Cryptic Gaze]] that much, you don't know much about conserving mana, no offense dude :) If this tactic don't work for you, cause some [[Yorick]] decided to go AD tank heavy, then use OP's tactic and passive-farm all game until [[Yorick]] gets so fed he can towerdive you and your jungler and come out alive. Ps. A good Yorick can kill a minion wave in like 5-6 seconds from level 9 onwards. Unless [[Sion]] can one-hit every minion, and have over 1.0 attack speed, that's not possible for [[Sion]]. This only tend to happen in late-game, where it's hard to come by real farm, cause your lane is either pushed up or the enemy team draws your attention elsewhere.[/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]Riven, Trundle and Sion are the best picks vs Yorick.[/quote]

[quote=Kurt_Ottman]^ I think maybe Udyr would be good too, idk about you.[/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]Udyr can work, but is really player dependant. If you make a single mistake you will get punished pretty hard. Didn't try it but might work. :o[/quote]

[quote=Kurt_Ottman]Go turtle style, guaranteed success. You can perma-ignore him unless he approaches you and uses Q, in which case you can tiger him to death. A little side-note there, this thread is about Sion, so before I leave, I'd like to say that I think Sion might be the best counter to [[Yorick]], but it depends on how he plays. I've seen [[Yorick]]'s wear down AP Warwicks.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse][quote=Kurt_Ottman] True, I take offense. Because last time I checked, I said items, not runes. So yes, I take armor runes on [[Yorick]] most of the time, unless I'm trying to counter a magic based champion. But that still leaves you with too small amount of defense, Sion's AA's really hurt early game if he gets AD quints and armor pen reds. Here's what's wrong with your idea: [[Yorick]] needs constant mana, to stay in lane for a longer period of time. Most of the [[Yorick]]s I know, build [[Manamune]] to compensate for the lack of mana. That means rushing [[Tear of the goddess]] in the beginning, which leaves him with almost no defense. And if you spam [[Cryptic Gaze]] that much, you don't know much about conserving mana, no offense dude :) If this tactic don't work for you, cause some [[Yorick]] decided to go AD tank heavy, then use OP's tactic and passive-farm all game until [[Yorick]] gets so fed he can towerdive you and your jungler and come out alive. Ps. A good Yorick can kill a minion wave in like 5-6 seconds from level 9 onwards. Unless [[Sion]] can one-hit every minion, and have over 1.0 attack speed, that's not possible for [[Sion]]. This only tend to happen in late-game, where it's hard to come by real farm, cause your lane is either pushed up or the enemy team draws your attention elsewhere. [/quote] If you use Gaze as harass you won't have mana for anything else. Also while you seem to think that you can take around 60-70% of Yorick's Hp with Gaze + 2 autohits, you neither have a clue about how you're actually wasting your mana nor do you know Sion capabilities. Before your kind of "tactic" gets you close even once you will already be kited down to 50%. No offense... PSYCHED!! This is meant as one.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]Tear isn't a core first-buy on Yorick. It's definitely the most ideal item to get, but if a Yorick knows they're against an enemy who can rape him, then of course he's going to get defenses first instead of Tear.[/quote]

[quote=Kurt_Ottman]Which would leave him unable to have infinite sustain, which kinda breaks the whole unbeatable Yorick thing, doesn't it? ;) What I've learnt is that Sion can easily get in two AA's after a good stun. And Yorick's sustain can't heal all of that up again. Fact is, the ONLY thing Sion will be wasting mana on in lane is Cryptic Gaze, so where do you get "other things" from? Either you play defensive and get shield, or offensive and use cryptic gaze.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS][quote=Crazy Smurf] Why. YOu see Yorick, u take Nasus, you free stack Q on ghosts. Trololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololo[color=#00ffff]I[/color]ololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololo. Spot the i. [/quote][/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]^lol. Also Kurt: Build that will destroy AD [[sion]] using Q and AAs: [[ninja tabi]], [[glacial shroud]], [[tear of the goddess]]. Cost: ~3.5k. Inexpensive, effective, and infinite sustain. If you're like Duff, full armor page. This brings you close to 200 Armor at the beginning of the game. Also, I think [[udyr]] would get bullied out of everything, and just stay back and kite away from your tiger -_- dem annoying slows.[/quote]