AS + ArmPen Twitch

[quote=Kyzbet]Hello, This is how I play Twitch, just wrote my own guide. Tell me your opinions if I need to improve something on my gamestyle. My objective is share and learn if I'm doing something wrong. http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/twitch-bc-40667 Enjoy :)[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]i'm not a twitch player, but damn those scores are nice.[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong]Hmm, the build seems pretty standard although I'd personally say you have waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much AS that's gimping your AD. Although Spray and Pray has been changed, I'm not sure where I stand on the build but I'd suggest maybe replacing a phantom dancer for a Tiamat and getting Boots of Mobility or Boots of Speed.[/quote]

[quote=Kyzbet][quote=B-Wong] Hmm, the build seems pretty standard although I'd personally say you have waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much AS that's gimping your AD. Although Spray and Pray has been changed, I'm not sure where I stand on the build but I'd suggest maybe replacing a phantom dancer for a Tiamat and getting Boots of Mobility or Boots of Speed. [/quote] This is build for last update, twitch needs AS since ulti got nerfed, it doesn't give AS anymore... So you can't count on it. With this AS I get the 2.5 AS when using Q, imagine now they dont even have time to run and I can accumulate the 6 stacks in less than 3 seconds. (That's my perspective, since new update) I think AS is very important on twitch (more than AD) since as soon you can hit the 6 stacks you're doing (lvl18) 60 damage per second during 6 seconds plus you can expunge and take a lot more damage, PLUS you can slow and keep hitting him, ofc AD is very important BUT entirely dependent on AS. It's been working and already did a lot of triple/quadra. About the gamestyle I still have a lot of problems on solo lane, I simply can't do it. About boots, that's my main question... I barely see a Twitch with this boots, and I was thinking on boots of swiftness, always with Enhanced Movement 3 can let me hit Q and run after 1 or 2 attacks (even if they slow or stun, I always use cleanse). About mobility boots I don't like it, for the fact that I'm wasting a item slot on a non-attack item. Give me your opinions, since I still have a lot to learn, and who else to teach me? :)[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong][quote=Kyzbet] [quote=B-Wong] Hmm, the build seems pretty standard although I'd personally say you have waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much AS that's gimping your AD. Although Spray and Pray has been changed, I'm not sure where I stand on the build but I'd suggest maybe replacing a phantom dancer for a Tiamat and getting Boots of Mobility or Boots of Speed. [/quote] This is build for last update, twitch needs AS since ulti got nerfed, it doesn't give AS anymore... So you can't count on it. With this AS I get the 2.5 AS when using Q, imagine now they dont even have time to run and I can accumulate the 6 stacks in less than 3 seconds. (That's my perspective, since new update) I think AS is very important on twitch (more than AD) since as soon you can hit the 6 stacks you're doing (lvl18) 60 damage per second during 6 seconds plus you can expunge and take a lot more damage, PLUS you can slow and keep hitting him, ofc AD is very important BUT entirely dependent on AS. It's been working and already did a lot of triple/quadra. About the gamestyle I still have a lot of problems on solo lane, I simply can't do it. About boots, that's my main question... I barely see a Twitch with this boots, and I was thinking on boots of swiftness, always with Enhanced Movement 3 can let me hit Q and run after 1 or 2 attacks (even if they slow or stun, I always use cleanse). About mobility boots I don't like it, for the fact that I'm wasting a item slot on a non-attack item. Give me your opinions, since I still have a lot to learn, and who else to teach me? :) [/quote] Thing is: hitting that attack speed cap actually sort of gimps you because you can't tell if you went past the actual limit. I.E.: Player 1 has 3 Phantom Dancers as Master Yi and uses Highlander, his attack speed cap is obviously going to hit 2.5 Player 2 has 1 Phantom Dancer and a Stark's Fervor as Yi and he uses Highlander, his attack speed reaches 2.3 attack speed. Just looking at the items: player 1 has 3 phantom dancers. 3x45 (attack speed) = 135% Player 2 has 1 phantom dancer and 1 Stark's: 45 + 40 = 85% So there's a 50% differential where player 1 reaches the cap BUT player 2 gets very close to the cap, having one spot available for another attack damage item where player 1 has an extra useless item that puts him way past the attack speed cap. Also, isn't Twitch's ultimate limited to X amount of shots after the nerf? Attack speed won't be as great of an asset without the X amount of time to shoot unlimited amounts of shots. Solo lane = harass with auto attacks but even more importantly: Last hit. Boots: Well personally I'd rahter have Swiftness/Mobility/Mercury's Treads They just have a lot more utility than Berzerker's Greaves can give you.[/quote]

[quote=Kyzbet]I've followed your idea and now I'm always using boots of mobility, I can easily gank so easily... I still keep the same build, just changed boots. The 25% is not that BIG boost but the speed is a BIG boost to finish low-health enemies that stay there, or even before they can recall. :) [quote=B-Wong] Also, isn't Twitch's ultimate limited to X amount of shots after the nerf? Attack speed won't be as great of an asset without the X amount of time to shoot unlimited amounts of shots. [/quote] The AS thing is not only about the ULTI, it's about the stacks on poison AND on black cleaver. So 2+ attacks in sec will reduce the armor for 60 in less than 3sec PLUS giving 60 damage during 6 seconds PLUS if I call [[Expunge]], I can do a really hard damage and if they're melee they can't even touch me!... So imo, it's better have a big AS boost than focus more on AD, correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks for opinion :)[/quote]

[quote=Diesel]Really Twitch benefits more on positioning and his entering time of a team fight than how fast he hits shits. lol[/quote]

[quote=Kyzbet][quote=Diesel] Really Twitch benefits more on positioning and his entering time of a team fight than how fast he hits shits. lol [/quote] Of course...! But that's the Player attitude, we're talking here about BUILDS (item part). Even if you get this build done and you can't position yourself with twitch you get owned in 2 hits. ...[/quote]

[quote=Kyzbet]I've been reading some Twitch guides/builds and I [b]really can't understand[/b] why they keep saying "Twitch is bad early game champ" :? In my opinion, Twitch is one of the best early game if you have a lane mate capable of understand your game... He's low health for sure but he's so strong attacking, invisible + attack early ingame can give you any kill you want, just need to choose the right enemy. ---- Just inserted my build into "Recommended items" with Yaric: [URL=http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3492/recommended.jpg][IMG]http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3492/recommended.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/quote]

[quote=PFP]Nearly exactly how I build Twitch. Only difference is I take survibility with Banshee's Veil instead of a second Phantom Dancer as a 6th item and I take Gylphs of Shielding, MR per level is better overall. To get more ratings I would make the build description look better. Not gonna lie, it hurts my eyes a bit to read it.[/quote]