[DISCUSS] How to get ELO in the SOLO QUEUE?

[quote=DuffTime]I mean. Of course you're going to have uncarryable team mates and there will be games that cannot be won. Obviously? But, that does not mean that your individual player skill will not have effect on your Elo. That's dumb to even think something like that.[/quote]

[quote=Sujing]Agree! As I have played Ranked, I noticed that it is not only skill required to win games, but also luck. Seriously, I'll be honest. I have won games because the other team had a dcer/rager/afker/etc. I have won games because the other team had one or two extremely bad players. Those games required no real skill to win. Then if I lose a game that ends within 25 minutes, it is most likely due to our team having the dcer/rager/afker/etc. I do wish it was really all skill at all ELO, not just low ELO.[/quote]

[quote=ProAsylum][quote=Mooninites] [quote=ProAsylum] THIS is what I mean.... ... solo queue is about luck to have carryable teammates... our varus DC all the time and always engaged tf like a tard. through the game I could carry them but in the lategame .... my team was just a trash.. skill can carry? YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID [/quote] you give me hope, that any moron can play solo queue and achieve gold. Maybe I'll start playing ranked again. you obviously weren't good enough to carry your team to victory, maybe because you missed the point were the objective of the game is to destroy the enemy nexus not worry about your KDA. [/quote] are you serious ? ;) how u wanna carry these guys? I started with 9/2 ... please tell me how you carry 4 retards =) you have liek 40 games in ranked.. play rank everyday and you will see[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=Sujing] Seriously, I'll be honest. I have won games because the other team had a dcer/rager/afker/etc. I have won games because the other team had one or two extremely bad players. Then if I lose a game that ends within 25 minutes, it is most likely due to our team having the dcer/rager/afker/etc. [/quote] Exactly, it balances out because it happens both on your team and the enemy team.[/quote]

[quote=ProAsylum][quote=Sujing] Agree! As I have played Ranked, I noticed that it is not only skill required to win games, but also luck. Seriously, I'll be honest. I have won games because the other team had a dcer/rager/afker/etc. I have won games because the other team had one or two extremely bad players. Those games required no real skill to win. Then if I lose a game that ends within 25 minutes, it is most likely due to our team having the dcer/rager/afker/etc. I do wish it was really all skill at all ELO, not just low ELO. [/quote] well i would say that 1650+ people start to have a brain and flame/talk less. But I don't get there because of 1,5k. 1,5k is the most bullshit I ever have seen. 1,4k is easy. they play like retards and i can get ELO easy, but 1,5k ... I do win my lane and then all people in my team go on retard mode and get caught.[/quote]

[quote=ProAsylum]SO... I decided to solo queue again .. this picture speaks more than thousands words......... tell me how to carry tards...? [url=http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8618/uncarryable2.png]CLICK HERE FOR PICTURE[/url][/quote]

[quote=Wintermond][quote=DuffTime] I mean. Of course you're going to have uncarryable team mates and there will be games that cannot be won. Obviously? But, that does not mean that your individual player skill will not have effect on your Elo. That's dumb to even think something like that. [/quote] And don't forget that you also get super easy free elo games and games whre you get carried despite your bad performance. It's all fair. @Ignition: I've been where you've been and it takes a good while to get out of the 1.5k-1.6k area. Keep playing your strong champs and play as good as you can in every game, if you don't get out you don't deserve it. Never forget that you didn't even reach hard mode and there's still a long way to go.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=ProAsylum] THIS is what I mean.... ... solo queue is about luck to have carryable teammates... our varus DC all the time and always engaged tf like a tard. through the game I could carry them but in the lategame .... my team was just a trash.. skill can carry? YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID [img=http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6391/uncarryble1.jpg] [/quote] "but in the lategame .... my team was just a trash.." No, you built retarded items on Kayle, the most item dependant champion in the game in a carry role. [quote=ProAsylum] SO... I decided to solo queue again .. this picture speaks more than thousands words......... tell me how to carry tards...? [url=http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8618/uncarryable2.png]CLICK HERE FOR PICTURE[/url] [/quote] And then you built retarded items on lee-sin and lost. I'm not saying you could have won these games, but before you complain about losing because of feeders/trolls/leavers, at least get your mechanics down.[/quote]

[quote=xIchi]I don't really see retard items... Randuins is one of the best items imo, mb FH can get close to it, but the active is 2 stronk. Building kayle full attack would be semi optional, kayle would be an ego utli user then.. And Lee's items were okay aswell. As a toplaner, he can just go full tank with arpen...[/quote]

[quote=samgoeslol]i dont know, i had some trouble in 1500s aswell but i think if you give me a 1500s account i can carry it over 1600 in no time (spamming corki). But imo tryharding all day long in soloQ is not the way to go! I use soloQ as a testingground for champions i wanna use on my team. So sometimes i will pick 2nd time orianna or try going gp10 on her (which btw turned out to be incredible and won us a tournamentgame today^^). I know i play on a higher lvl on some champions, but i usually play what i like to play at that moment. Still not sure if I should just spam corki and get to a decent elo just to get opponents that will crush me in lane (-> me learning faster) or if I should just keep playing wtf i want (ap blitz <3) and staying at the mediocre elo im at right now... And another thing: If you wanna gain elo and dont know which champion to play, try picking a champion that can either engage or 1vmany. That way you wont have to rely on your team to engage. Thats the exact reason i stopped playing katarina (ppl just dont engage even if you are 12-1). Pick a champion that can win games by himself and you will gain some elo (if you play accordingly ofc!) greez sam[/quote]