The "How to counter my main" thread

[quote=Lugignaf]So, this is a thing I found a while ago on the official forums and it was basically a full-on knowledge pool. The idea is, you say one of your best champs and how to counter them. Whether it's a specific champ, an item set, a rune set or some certain play style. For example, One of the best ways to counter Maokai is to play someone with strong pushing capabilities like Shyvana. Or, you can simply kill him early on. Champion specific counters are Gragas and Janna as they can remove people from his ult or knock back a particularly fed/farmed Maokai. Anyone care to continue?[/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]Riven. The best way to counter Riven is by counterpicking. Strong picks vs Riven would be Kennen, Kayle and Renekton. If you play vs Riven, don't focus only on getting Armor. If you do that you will get killed unless you're Irelia. Buy Ninja Tabi asap. Don't push vs. Riven, because Riven will have an easy time farming, harassing and killing you with a jungler gank there. Try to bait her into attacking you and back off when she uses her Q or W. This will push her minion wave towards your turret and you can farm at your turret kind of safely. Be careful of E-W Autoattack combo under the turret, try to CC her or call for a jungler gank when she overextends.[/quote]

[quote=Katjoesja]For Viktor it's kinda easy: push and be able to dodge his skills. Also outranging him can work because you will win the poke war. People I've lost my lane to include: Kennen (big counter thanks to speed and harass), LeBlanc (jump and nuke) and Malzahar (pushing). Try to push, so that he needs his laser to farm under his turret instead of poking you. Also try to harass him as much as possible. Viktor receives ganks pretty well, but he needs to be near you to use his trap. This will give away. Also just run away when he ults you. You will die. Fact. Great idea for a thread btw![/quote]

[quote=albableat]Hell, I wonder why I don't want to do this :DDD But still, [[leblanc]]... As any champion, playing against [[leblanc]] requires strict understanding of her range and current damage capability. Knowing her cooldowns and approximate damage is vital. If you're unaware of whether she can kill you or not, you're making a fool out of yourself. There might be nothing to fear and you're just wasting gold/exp or it might be that next second you drop dead unexpectedly. Once you know everything about enemy [[leblanc]]'s capabilities, it's time to manage that in your favor. First, in a [[leblanc]] lane best you can do is to deny her the farm by pushing every wave like there's no tomorrow. Push it, push it, push it. As [[leblanc]], it's very hard to last-hit under the tower. Make sure to have proper ward coverage to avoid ganks though. Although she will be deprived of farm, if you let her get kills, there is no purpose for doing all this pushing. Counterpicking and counter-itemizing are 2 best ways to beat [[leblanc]] in lane. Best counterpicks would include champions with either very high MR and/or an AoE pushing skill other very good countering mechanism is silence. The best [[leblanc]] counter is probably [[galio]] since he has both. I would say that [[malzahar]] and [[anivia]] both have great kits to best [[leblanc]] in lane. [[morgana]] does fine in [[leblanc]] lane too (just like with almost any other lane) The best cp to [[leblanc]] in my personal opinion is [[talon]]. He has a perfect gap closer with silence that outranges everything but [[leblanc]]'s chain, great damage and invisibility to prevent any sort of retaliation after silence wears out. You can also build quite a bit of MR on him. Counter-itemization against [[leblanc]] is simple. There are two things you need to prioritize to make yourself free of danger. Flat health and magic resist. On any AP carry, go [[catalyst the protector]] instead of 2 [[doran's ring]]s. It's a way better tool to sustain vs [[leblanc]] AND it gives twice as much health. Additionally, it builds into the best [[leblanc]] countering item in the game. Alternatively, if you already have rings, get a [[giant belt]], that works too. As for magic resist, [[banshee's veil]], [[abyssal scepter]], [[guardian angel]], [[hexdrinker]], [[quicksilver sash]] [[mercury's treads]], [[wit's end]], [[aegis of the legion]] are all decent items to pick up, depending on your role. I also foresee [[chalice of harmony]] being a common pick against bursty mid's with the introduction of the new item. Also, full MR runepage isn't bad to have if you want to really counter the crap out of [[leblanc]] ;) But for the most part I would just suggest keeping a page with MR or MR/level glyphs for your AP carries. This bonus MR really helps. P.S. Awesome thread. Really nice idea, Lugi.[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]Lux. She is countered by basically anything that has a lot of mobility. Think of [[Kassadin]] and [[LeBlanc]], or even [[Ahri]]. Also tanky champions can be a problem ([[Sion]]), or champions that burst even harder than her ([[Veigar]]). Many people seem to think [[Morgana]] > [[Lux]] but nope ;D[/quote]

[quote=A Chubby Baby]Irelia get items like randuin's omen or frozen heart. most of irelia's dmg comes from her true dmg, which comes from auto-attacks. i you reduce her auto-attack count, you will also reduce her overall dmg output.[/quote]

[quote=Nyoike]Jungle Pig (AKA [[Sejuani]]) Counter Jungle to slow down Gank in jungle Ward to prevent ganks [[Mercury's Treads]]/Tenacity to minimize CC MR to minimize damage [spoiler=The Truth is...] I've actually not the best idea as to how to counter her... I've not been countered once when I play her. Best thing to do is to try and shut her down early on via counter jungling and kill denial. Sejuani is very tanky, does a lot of damage, and has a ton of CC. All together seems pretty difficult to counter. You don't wanna focus her in team fights, but you do want to get her out of the team fights.[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100][quote=IceCreamy] Many people seem to think [[Morgana]] > [[Lux]] but nope ;D [/quote] Well, if someone would say [[Lux]] > [[Morgana]] I'd also say 'lol nope' :D Anyway, I don't think I really have a main atm..... :S :([/quote]

[quote=EvilDice]Interesting idea.. whenever i can't figure out how to counter a champ i start playing said champ so i can learn weaknesses. seems like this is kinda the same deal. LeeSin top dunkmaster stomping guy! hardest matchups (in order) - jax, udyr, irelia can also lose to (mostly a skill matchup) - olaf, shen, warwick only way you beat lee if you are not playing one of these champions is to go ballz deep early game meaning you get a jungler gank and you try to get first blood. even champs lee counters can snowball off ganks and win the lane.. lee is really easy to snowball against. you can stack armor but tabi+wriggles is all you should really need. if i see someone stacking armor against me i start maxing E just sayin. also watch what skills he is maxing, there is a big difference between Q max lee and W max lee. look at the size of his shield (or if he is lifestealing a bunch) and you should be able to determine what he is maxing. but yea he doesnt lose many lanes. hard to counter.[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]^ Recently started playing a little bit more top, love playing Lee Sin there ^^[/quote]