Beginner friendly Kayle

[quote=IceCreamy]Not really. I play with 0-9-21 masteries and Armor Marks, gp/10 Seals, MR/lvl Glyphs and gp/10 Quints. As support you should always start [[Faerie Charm]] and build 2 gp/10 items ([[Philosopher's Stone]], [[Kage's Lucky Pick]], [[Heart of Gold]], [[Avarice Blade]]). After that you can basically buy whatever you want, depending on the support. [[Kayle]] is really situational, though. Classic supports go with [[Aegis of the Legion]] and [[Shurelya's Reverie]] since they are cheap and give nice buffs to the team. [[Kayle]] does not since her Q really requires her to attack, which means going AD to me.[/quote]

[quote=alexvsevil]What if I want to do more of a DPS role? The pure support thing has gotten boring, I want kills too, and I found the AP actually seems to kill faster than AD although I just used it for the first time so maybe things will change.[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]If you want to play as AD carry you can do that too. On the other hand there are better AD carries than [[Kayle]]... You could also try jungling but if you are under level 20 that will be hard as [[Kayle]] is not the best jungler either... Basically the current meta has no place for [[Kayle]] :P[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=IceCreamy] Basically the current meta has no place for [[Kayle]] :P [/quote] Wait what? She's pretty good top. Build full AD, win lategame. Dyrus is picking her all the time in tournament games and doing that.[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]That is true :)[/quote]

[quote=alexvsevil]What are the differences between top mid and bot? Seems like people generally have a set idea of what kind of unit belongs where but I'm not familiar with the genre... Seems like bottom is the hardest to control while the middle is either empty or has enemy units rushing over constantly And top seems like it always loses the turret first due to not enough defense And most people solo mid which I guess is why the # of enemy champions seems so inconsistent? My experience is limited to beginner bot games and a few ranked matches I got into by accident :P[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=alexvsevil] What are the differences between top mid and bot? Seems like people generally have a set idea of what kind of unit belongs where but I'm not familiar with the genre... Seems like bottom is the hardest to control while the middle is either empty or has enemy units rushing over constantly And top seems like it always loses the turret first due to not enough defense And most people solo mid which I guess is why the # of enemy champions seems so inconsistent? My experience is limited to beginner bot games and a few ranked matches I got into by accident :P [/quote] (Copying from an older thread because I'm lazy) Generally you'll see something like this. Top - Something that's fairly tanky and/or has escape abilities, often with sustain. This is because top is the easiest lane to gank and isolated from the rest of the map, so picking a champion with a high chance of surviving or even thriving alone is a good idea. Examples: [[vlad]], [[kennen]], [[udyr]], [[riven]], [[shen]], [[jax]], [[olaf]] Mid - AP, because they need to level up quickly in order to become strong. Mid is the shortest lane and thus usually the hardest to gank, which is good for AP because they're mostly very squishy without innate escapes. Plus being in the middle of the map allows AP champions the chance to roam to other lanes and pick up kills, which is something they're often good at. Examples: [[Karthus]], [[ryze]], [[cassiopeia]], [[ahri]], [[morgana]], [[vlad]], [[veigar]] Bot - AD and support, because AD is very vulnerable to being killed in any other lane. They need the help and the warding from supports to survive early game and they don't really depend on levels, mostly money. The reason they usually go bot instead of top is for greater numbers around dragon. Supports build gold items and don't take cs so that AD can get maximum farm. Examples: [[Graves]], [[corki]], [[caitlyn]], [[sivir]], [[kog'maw]] + [[janna]], [[soraka]], [[taric]], [[leona]] Jungle - Usually someone tanky, though that's mostly because all the good junglers are tanks so you don't really have much choice. You generally want them to have some good CC for ganks and good AoE damage helps for clearing the jungle. Examples: [[nautilus]], [[nocturne]], [[mundo]], [[shyvana]], [[udyr]][/quote]

[quote=alexvsevil]Thanks for that! Makes a lot more sense to me now. I suppose I should play her on the bottom, then, but I guess her versatility is confusing me because I just saw a strat thread that says to use her as a solo top, haha :|[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Kayle is kinda weird like that since she can do a bit of everything, but generally people do play her mostly as a solo top.[/quote]

[quote=alexvsevil]The itemisation feels SO awkward for AD instead of AP, a lot of the upgrades are just so expensive and you end up falling way behind saving up 1600 for one of the pieces to Bloodthirster...but then again I've had 3 games in a row where the bottom lane had 2-3 champions so it's been really hard to farm -_- any tips? I tried farming in the jungle but got yelled at a lot (by my bottom lane partner who was being absolutely retarded and tower diving as soon as the game began, no less)[/quote]