Karma Rework

[quote=DillButt64]so recently ive been using karma a lot and ive heard of a rework i dont go on PBE so can anyone thats on it tell me about if its happening or not? also ive seen things about her new skin and i like it ;D i heard on her rework she was getting knockback on her Q which i think would mess it up since its so close range and it would heal and probably make her chasing and baiting potential change from the best to not the best and that you wont get to attach her W on enemies which is terrible because almost every champion can outrun karma (yes that dress is impractical) and i normally use it to slow people and secure that kill and without it then itll make her W only useful for getting to a lane faster if you happen to be next to a minion wave =/[/quote]

[quote=lifebaka]They've been working on it for ages. I wouldn't expect it soon.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]i honestly hope not i mean shes not perfect but im getting used to how she works now after 2 weeks of using her D: apparently im a fast learner or something on this game cuz im getting complimented like every game by people for using her good you know after the whole "WOW KARMA REALLY USE A DIFFERENT CHAMP LIKE JANNA OR ALISTAR KARMA IS USELESS" crap you get in champion select[/quote]

[quote=A Chubby Baby]i'd personally like a rework of her.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]it depends on how they do the rework D: i hope they dont just make her like a soraka or sona support that has to stay back all the time but i really hope they dont change her playstyle honestly a buff would be perfect for me[/quote]

[quote=Diesel]If they do re-work her, it's gonna be along the same lines as Evelynn when she got re-worked: people will play her for like 2 weeks then she'll go right back on shelf. This is probably why they're taking their sweet time on it.[/quote]

[quote=holkos]I'd think only her passive and her "ult" needs a rework. Her basic ability kit is very strong IMO[/quote]

[quote=Fox Rage]They should lower the cooldown on her ultimate, tweak her passive a bit and make it so her link damage the enemy it is anchored on. It is annoying to know the only time you can deal damage with the link is if you make them walk in it. Personnaly, I'm eager to see her rework. I've been a Kamar fan for ages. I like her mechanics. Sadly, she gets outclassed so hard by other easier support (Taric come to mind, soraka too) that she's not even worth playing. You give yourself a huge handicap just by picking her. In solo/duo queue that is. In a full premade, it must be different I guess.[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot]Karma isn't support, no more than lux or morg is.[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher]First off, I'd like to say that karma is my main. Literally, my #1 main. I play her AP mid, and here are my thoughts on what I would like to see happen with karma: 1. I hate that her skills level to 6. Her base values hardly go up from level to level. Either give them another scaling stat, or make her ult rank-able. (leveling your ult would either reduce the cd for mantra charges, increase # of mantra charges, or buff her abilities in some other way) 2. Her cc is piss poor. Most ap mids either have mobility, or cc. Brand: no mobility, shitty cc, but it's there. Morg: no mobility, huge cc. Fizz: high mobility, cc on ult. Vlad: no cc, pool for escapes/utility. Karma has nothing. If you touch karma, she will slow you by 10% and blow her spells to try to keep herself alive. 3. Her passive is fine. It sucks that you have to be hurt for it to be useful, but so be it. It's good for baiting since her ratios are very powerful. 4. She needs 3 mantra charges. 2 is just too few. You go into a teamfight, mantra shield, then mantra heal your team. then you're borderline useless for 15-25 seconds. I hate that cooldown is a huge part of karma, when she works so well as a nuker. Abyssal rabadons so effective for her, but she really needs 40 cdr to be played as a mage. 5. Give her cc on mantra shield, or mantra q. Mantra'ing heavenly wave SHOULD be a knockback. you can either chose to nuke with it, or nuke and push. Me gusta. 6. Increase her ratios. If you do this, tone down her ult. She just doesn't have enough power or lategame scaling to be a competitive mage. 7. Don't make her a 0 cs support. With her kit, she'd be completely outclassed. Janna is way better for shields/disruption, and taric is way better for damage mitigation and small heals. Taric and janna don't have to use 'ammo' to cast their spells, karma does, which means she can't be a true support. Plus all her skills level to 6, which is SHIT for a support since supports are usually underleveled. CROWS FOOT: Karma is a 10x better support than morg, and 5x better than lux.[/quote]