My Ideas for small buffs I think champs need.

[quote=Pølsemanden][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] No, suboptimal is the word I wanted to use. That's why I used it, if I wanted to use "niche" I would have. Suboptimal means that there is a champion who accomplishes the same things Lux does, but does it better. Leona comes to mind, she trades poke for lane control (and a passive her teammate can set off). Factor in her additional durability over Lux and the fact that she works against a wide variety of bot lane comps (even them pesky sustain lanes) makes her the pick to take. But if you want to take Lux bot, fine, go for it, I've explained my reasons why I won't, doesn't mean you have to listen to me. [/quote] Are you comparing lux and leona, wtf oO They're like totally different picks for totally different situations. It's like someone asking you: which icecream do you like. And you answering: i like hamburgers. Yes, they're both unhealthy but they're not nearly the same and not even intended for the same situation. also, a game i just tried playin her. [url=http://postimage.org/][img]http://s7.postimage.org/dr2d5l7ij/Udklip.png[/img][/url] every single time one of them were out of position at any point of the game post 6 they just died. Twas actually a much harder game than one might think but we only just won it because of a clutch wall by anivia. lining up a perfect E-Ult from me pretty much acing them.[/quote]

[quote=Chris1130]Oh boy, the rage in every throatslasher's post. Is so funny how someone can get so mad about theorycrafting in a videogame. [quote=throatslasher] I bash people that try to speak with authority [/quote] Authority? This is the INTERNET. Even more, this is a FORUM about a VIDEOGAME. Everything you will see here is an opinion. Everything. Unless someone goes "This is truth because I said so" (like what you are doing in this thread), what you are reading is an opinion. So, here is why I [b]think[/b] your [b]opinion[/b] about some things is wrong: [quote]So, there are a lot of underpowered champs out there, and riot doesn't care about it. They just choose to nerf OP champs instead of buff UP champs, which is stupid.[/quote] Taken directly from the forums. Phreak, one of the people working in the game (so he should know a lot about it), says why buffing everything is bad: [spoiler]There are a lot of issues with constantly buffing. First, the explanation of Power Creep: Power Creep makes you buff everything else when you keep buffing everything and the game no longer looks the same. What if we buffed every carry that wasn't the current #1 carry? Suddenly AD Carries are the best role by far, and pretty much every lane wants to be an AD carry because they're just the best champions in the game. Then let's say we buff all mages to stack up with AD carries. Now no one plays any melee champions in the game. Why play Taric when you can just play Support Annie and rock everyone? Now we have to buff the other 60 champions to deal with that. Now turrets die in 12 seconds because now all the champions are OP. Jungling is a joke. Split pushing is all out of whack because everyone deals so much damage. Now we have to buff movement speed so that champions can react to split pushing. Now the melee vs ranged dynamic is completely thrown off. It's so easy for melee to close into the ranged champions that skillshots are all useless and being melee is just better. Better buff AD carries and mages again. So that's why we don't just buff everything. The game snowballs out of control and a lot of things fall apart.[/spoiler] TL;DR : Constantly buffing everyone to be at the same level that the OP champions would only make the game more unbalanced. [quote]Mordekaiser: 10% damage buff to all non-ultimate abilities Increase maximum allowed shield at all levels by 10% Reduce health costs by 10-20% Increase movespeed slightly (morde needs help, and I think he deserves to be a threat since he DOES have hardcounters. I'd like to see morde be playable again)[/quote] [spoiler]More damage? Stop building tank Morde and buy some AP on him, then tell me about the time you killed a entire creep wave with just one ability, or when you hitted your opponent for half of his HP with two of them. His damage is fine where it is. No need for more shield, a full charged one can stop a ton of damage, usually 3/4 of the burst of their AP carry, and it's even better when you are filling it over and over thanks to your W, E and ghost. Health costs stop being a problem after you get spellvamp, which should be the first thing you get in Morde. If you really can't handle them, start with a [[Regrowth Pendant]]. You have to decide between sustain or mobility, and to me it seems like a fair choice. Movement speed? He has 315 base MS, the average speed in LoL, and even more, he has more MS than the most common mids.[/spoiler] [quote]Swain: Increase the range on e and q for stronger laning phase, but tone down the sustain on his ult. Kinda silly you can get a RoA and be unkillable when 5 people are focusing you.[/quote] [spoiler]Oh boy, the Vayne syndrome. His early game isn't good to compensate for his extremely strong mid and late game, yet you want to buff him to make him good at every point of the game, not leaving a single chance for shutting him down. Also, unkillable when 5 people are focusing you? With just a RoA? Wow, they must have been extremely underleveled, underfarmed, and without [[Ignite]] and CC.[/spoiler] [quote]Syndra: Delete this champion. Nobody likes her.[/quote] [spoiler]What did I wrote about you being the only one speaking with authority about things you don't know? Or did you make a treath about Syndra in the forums and every single person in the game told you they didn't like her? I'm pretty sure that's not the case, because I do like her concept, and I have seen a lot of people playing her, and even more people discussing ideas for making her viable. So, people do care about her, but you don't. Your opinion isn't the same that everyone else opinion. And that actually is a fact.[/spoiler] [quote]Tristana: Make explosive shot toggle-able, like vorpal spikes. Make her rocket jump less buggy when trying to jump over terrain, I often just jump up and land in the same spot when making a jump I feel I should have made. (tristana's only drawback, and it's a huge one, is that she has no choice but to push the lane, which is why she sucks right now.)[/quote] [spoiler]Pushing equals get ganked. No wards, counterjungle, counterganking, more important lanes to gank, possibility to be fed, nothing. Pushing = ganks. Not even Tristana's range, escapes or burst potencial will save you. Neither will save you the CC/heals/shields of your support. Once you push, you will get ganked and will die. Every time. I think something is wrong in your logic here... And again, Vayne syndrome. Buff the only weakness of the champion, leave everything else as it is. Congratulations, you just made an OP champion.[/spoiler][/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex][quote=Pølsemanden] [quote=JEFFY40HANDS] No, suboptimal is the word I wanted to use. That's why I used it, if I wanted to use "niche" I would have. Suboptimal means that there is a champion who accomplishes the same things Lux does, but does it better. Leona comes to mind, she trades poke for lane control (and a passive her teammate can set off). Factor in her additional durability over Lux and the fact that she works against a wide variety of bot lane comps (even them pesky sustain lanes) makes her the pick to take. But if you want to take Lux bot, fine, go for it, I've explained my reasons why I won't, doesn't mean you have to listen to me. [/quote] Are you comparing lux and leona, wtf oO They're like totally different picks for totally different situations. It's like someone asking you: which icecream do you like. And you answering: i like hamburgers. Yes, they're both unhealthy but they're not nearly the same and not even intended for the same situation. [/quote] you could simply put leona for the front, lux for the back.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden][quote=Pheyniex] [quote=Pølsemanden] [quote=JEFFY40HANDS] No, suboptimal is the word I wanted to use. That's why I used it, if I wanted to use "niche" I would have. Suboptimal means that there is a champion who accomplishes the same things Lux does, but does it better. Leona comes to mind, she trades poke for lane control (and a passive her teammate can set off). Factor in her additional durability over Lux and the fact that she works against a wide variety of bot lane comps (even them pesky sustain lanes) makes her the pick to take. But if you want to take Lux bot, fine, go for it, I've explained my reasons why I won't, doesn't mean you have to listen to me. [/quote] Are you comparing lux and leona, wtf oO They're like totally different picks for totally different situations. It's like someone asking you: which icecream do you like. And you answering: i like hamburgers. Yes, they're both unhealthy but they're not nearly the same and not even intended for the same situation. [/quote] you could simply put leona for the front, lux for the back. [/quote] we're talking support lux here mate.. :D[/quote]

[quote=artfowl12][quote=throatslasher] So, there are a lot of underpowered champs out there, and riot doesn't care about it. They just choose to nerf OP champs instead of buff UP champs, which is stupid. It's not usually their values that are crazy, but their kits in general. AKA morgana doesn't need less damage, her ult can CC a whole team for 4+ seconds. Anyways, on with the list: Udyr: Make switching stances reset his auto attack animation. Broken, I know, but it might not be as powerful as you think. [/quote] YES THANK YOU! or they give him a dash and completely rework the character but otherwise I agree. My favorite champ (or is it Taric???). Anyways....that or buff turtle/bear etc...[/quote]

[quote=YayaFTW][quote=artfowl12] [quote=throatslasher] So, there are a lot of underpowered champs out there, and riot doesn't care about it. They just choose to nerf OP champs instead of buff UP champs, which is stupid. It's not usually their values that are crazy, but their kits in general. AKA morgana doesn't need less damage, her ult can CC a whole team for 4+ seconds. Anyways, on with the list: Udyr: Make switching stances reset his auto attack animation. Broken, I know, but it might not be as powerful as you think. [/quote] YES THANK YOU! or they give him a dash and completely rework the character but otherwise I agree. My favorite champ (or is it Taric???). Anyways....that or buff turtle/bear etc... [/quote] It's nice that Udyr is your favourite but accepting unreasonable buffs to him just because he's your favourite champ will just make him less unique and fun to you when you'll start seeing him permabanned in draft or instalocked in normals :/ Also what throatslasher said will make him more than broken...because procing AA reset animation with Trinity Force...that's technically burst damage especially if Udyr was top and Q is maxed out...and that's way too much damage output for a tanky bruiser to deal..[/quote]

[quote=Lasty][quote=YayaFTW] It's nice that Udyr is your favourite but accepting unreasonable buffs to him just because he's your favourite champ will just make him less unique and fun to you when you'll start seeing him permabanned in draft or instalocked in normals :/ Also what throatslasher said will make him more than broken...because procing AA reset animation with Trinity Force...that's technically burst damage especially if Udyr was top and Q is maxed out...and that's way too much damage output for a tanky bruiser to deal.. [/quote] (throat here) I agree. However, Udyr has big problems late game. He's easy to kite, and he doesn't do very much damage. I think the broken part would be phage+AA resetting, almost guaranteeing you a phage proc once you get in someone's butt. I'm not sure what udyr needs, but in his current state, I find him underwhelming. He can be a brick shit-house of tanky-dps, but he can also be shut down extremely easily.[/quote]

[quote=Phil Collins][quote=YayaFTW] [quote=artfowl12] [quote=throatslasher] So, there are a lot of underpowered champs out there, and riot doesn't care about it. They just choose to nerf OP champs instead of buff UP champs, which is stupid. It's not usually their values that are crazy, but their kits in general. AKA morgana doesn't need less damage, her ult can CC a whole team for 4+ seconds. Anyways, on with the list: Udyr: Make switching stances reset his auto attack animation. Broken, I know, but it might not be as powerful as you think. [/quote] YES THANK YOU! or they give him a dash and completely rework the character but otherwise I agree. My favorite champ (or is it Taric???). Anyways....that or buff turtle/bear etc... [/quote] It's nice that Udyr is your favourite but accepting unreasonable buffs to him just because he's your favourite champ will just make him less unique and fun to you when you'll start seeing him permabanned in draft or instalocked in normals :/ Also what throatslasher said will make him more than broken...because procing AA reset animation with Trinity Force...that's technically burst damage especially if Udyr was top and Q is maxed out...and that's way too much damage output for a tanky bruiser to deal.. [/quote] The buffs are actually justified as [[udyr]] is one of the 5% of bruisers with no gap closer or any range whatsoever. Plus, he only deals that much damage because he can be kited easily.[/quote]