My Ideas for small buffs I think champs need.

[quote=Inferiae]Agree with quite a few of the changes you suggest, the ones I'd like to discuss further [[Tryndamere]] - I'm not sure what to do with this guy, improving his ult could work potentially, but it's already his only saving grace, improving it further could make him even more reliant on his ult to be of any threat, I think the rest of his kit needs a rework? [[Lux]] - Personally when I play Lux (poorly) I find the problem you've mentioned too, but in Korea she's a really common ban, could perhaps make her slightly OP in well played hands? [[Gangplank]] - Completely agree here, this is a much needed change and quite honestly baffling that it's gone untouched [[Tristana]] - I agree it's annoying constantly pushing, but I suppose this is just a tradeoff of leveling E, without it she'd pretty much lack a weakness? [[Mundo]] - Also agree here mate, only concern is that his constant cleavers early game are a complete nightmare, add this change without a slight tweak there and he'd be flinging around cleavers like Sweeny Todd[/quote]

[quote=Syther Blade][quote=Mastarwe] [quote=throatslasher] [quote=Lugignaf] [quote=throatslasher] Nautilus: Return 50% of the stats you took away when you nerfed his tankiness [/quote] I'm sorry, what? They have never nerfed his tankiness. All of the nerfs were damage or cooldown based. 0 base stat touches. [quote=throatslasher] Swain: (...)tone down the sustain on his ult. Kinda silly you can get a RoA and be unkillable when 5 people are focusing you. [/quote] Again, what? RoA does not make him unkillable at all. Sure it works amazingly with him but it doesn't turn you into a 5man tank force unless they're staggering out blows or a severely underfarmed team by the time you get it. Lastly, [quote=throatslasher] Tristana: Make explosive shot toggle-able, like vorpal spikes. Make her rocket jump less buggy when trying to jump over terrain, I often just jump up and land in the same spot when making a jump I feel I should have made. (tristana's only drawback, and it's a huge one, is that she has no choice but to push the lane, which is why she sucks right now.) [/quote] Rocket [i]jump[/i] is labeled as a dash, looks like a jump and says it is in the tooltip. RIOT either needs to change the wording or the animation/name to reflect what it really is. Now, why is pushing lane a bad thing? In this age of every ADC having an escape, you'd think that putting pressure on your bot lane to either, A:Pull pressure from the enemy jungler to bot instead of top/mid(easier time farming now) or B: Force them back so you can dragon easily. I have never seen anyone say Trist is bad ,other than her midgame, so why should I believe [i]you[/i] now? [/quote] I'm at work, I can't look up patches. But what I CAN look up is the following: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/21366590#ranked-stats I was being sarcastic about swain, but as an avid swain player, I have tanked 5 people as swain with RoA and WotA and most of my team around me. You are an unranked moron. 17 years old and talkin' like a big shot. I would care if you had 500 RANKED games played and something constructive to add. However, you have no ranked experience and everything you say is wrong. "Now, why is pushing lane a bad thing?" Sometimes it's good, but most of the time it's terrible. Pushing all the time makes you more apt to being ganked, and it makes it impossible for tristana to freeze then lane. Pushing will make it easier for you to get ganked. which is a bad thing, if you were not aware Why the fuck should tristana's jump be classified as a dash? she clears 3 times the distance of graves' dash. You know what riot needs to do? they need to make it have the properties of a blink. But since you don't play adcarry, this is all wasted breath. You're a noob, please stop speaking with authority. You can ask questions and make suggestions, but to assert that you know anything at all when you clearly? that's just silly [/quote] and... all the respect that I may have had for you is now gone. Not only do you start raging just because someone tells you his opinion (you even ask for it in the OP), you also assume that you have to play ranked to be any good at the game. Most persons on the forums have played for quite some time and thus have quite a lot of knowledge on what changes have been made to the game. This especially applies to vets, since they've been around for a long time on this site alone (nobody would go to these forums unless they play/have played lol). If you can't tolerate criticism then please just leave the forums right now. We don't want people like that around here. [/quote] I dont know this guy but I honestly now love him and agree with everything he sad here[/quote]

[quote=Anastasios]I find Lux's mana costs fine. Perhaps her E could get a 10-20 mana cost reduction, but her q and ult are really cheap.[/quote]

[quote=Mastarwe][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] Do I think your knowledge is worse? That's a bit of a loaded question. I'll refrain from answering it directly. I've been playing this game for a long time too, so I do believe that my experience is more robust. HOWEVER I do believe that players capable of reaching gold/plat/diamond do deserve a bit more weight with their arguments when it comes to technical aspects "He/she needed to do x so y would happen" as an example. That doesn't mean I can't conflict with them, it simply means that my credibility falls to whatever evidence I can provide. ELO is most likely the easiest way to accomplish that. IF there was a way to stabilize the "Lane Swap" Gambit then I would agree. But the nature of gambits being so...Well rsiky, means that you have a higher chance of success by maintaining the current duo bot lane ADC/Support meta. IMO. [/quote] Not talking about you, but more in general. ELO isn't everything. I personally think that everybody can reach gold if they invest enough time in learning the game (though not everybody has that time and/or likes to play ranked). The point was though that people who aren't playing ranked don't automatically are worse then those who do, they might just don't care about their e-peen.[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot]thing is about Talon, his W isn't his main damage, his q is. Early lvls in that and just e,q go out. That damage HURTS and with e he is almost untouchable when retreating.[/quote]

[quote=A Chubby Baby]think karma could use a rework maybe :D. i mean, they announced it but it's been a while already, and we haven't seen any progress.[/quote]

[quote=koksei][quote=IceCreamy] [quote=BloodRaine][u][/u] [quote=Temzilla] Most trist's I know don't even pick up explosive shot. They just max Q and then get W till 13. Janna/Lulu Trist lanes with Q max are pretty strong imo. [/quote] Who maxes Q as Trist >_> [/quote] I do usually. Simply because I don't want to put points in E and W is pretty dumb to max first (though I have tried it, too). And hey, gotta level something :P Besides, Q lets you trade way better, especially alongside a support such as [[Janna]], [[Blitzcrank]] or [[Leona]]. [/quote] Did you really mean her W is shit? Noooooooooooooo trist is a fucking aggressive lane and you want to kill idiots specially at your Elo .. And in general you want to max the W for burst and cdr... Sich .. Secondly you should usuelly put 2 lvls in E and start with Q at 8 .. Thats how you should usually so et.. Regarding the op - trist: Yeah a toggle on/Off would be great[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]Talon's range is small and his gapcloser leaves him vulnerable. Either you go in and die or your team kills everyone. And WTF his damage in lane comes from his w not his eq derp -_- Trist's jump is stupid though Also please refrain from vaguely speaking about lane switches. Firstly teams don't always lane switch when "they feel pressured". Teams factor in buff control and dragon control along with the potential of the top laner going bot. Secondly, both teams do it. Lane swapping is the mind game of the current competitive scene. One example: Blue team lane swaps and puts a no-escape top laner bot(eg: olaf). Purple doesn't swap and has jungle Ali. Ali takes blue and purple team bot lane pushes. Ali can then come in bot for a 1v2 dive at early levels to secure FB. Er and abt elo: Sure anyone can get 1500 elo if they put effort into it. That's just like saying "I can get all A's if I wanted to" in school. That's just like saying "I can develop a game like LoL if I invest the time". You're oversimplifying things. How people put in effort and maintain it is what makes the extraordinary stand out from the average. Also, elo doesn't necessarily represent knowledge of a game, but getting there surely does prove something. I honestly do not know any >1200 elo player that has ever had any correct ideas abt the game. If there were one, then he / she would be a person who has improved dramatically and has not touched ranked in quite a while.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]:D, maxing q on tristana... silly people...[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher][quote=Lugignaf] Secondly, does it matter that I'm 17? [/quote] Nobody has ever given a fuck about what a 17 year old had to say about anything. [quote=Lugignaf] I have valid [b]opinions[/b] too ya know. [/quote] No, your opinions are unfounded and wrong. I, however, speak from personal experience. [quote=Lugignaf] Does it matter that I don't do ranked? Sure I may not be professional 2200 ELO like you over there Mr. Bigshot but what I know is still relevant to my ELO. You know, where the majority of people are? [/quote] Yeah, and you, like the majority of the people that play this game, are kinda stupid, and know nothing about the game. Grats. what little wrong information you cling to is relevant to the normal games you play. Have fun. [quote=Lugignaf] Ganked implies no escape spells. Last I checked, Tristana has one of the better escape spells at her disposal. 2 past 6, and 3 with flash. [/quote] Ok. make sure to apologize to your support as you shove the lane, and jump away when trouble comes, only to watch your support get 1v3'd [quote=Lugignaf] Still on the topic of ganking, what about counter-ganks? What about if the enemy jungler is to low to attempt anything? What about if they're somewhere else? [/quote] Counter ganking doesn't occur in solo queue without luck. You need to have 4+ wards on the map extremely early just to have a shot at counterganking. And even then, there's still luck to it because you have to be close enough when their jungler pops out to gank your top etc. [quote=Lugignaf] You can't just say "pushing is bad because you get ganked," and call it there. You have to take any and all possible factors into account. [/quote] I have. Pushing is bad because you get ganked, idiot. Wait for tristana to push, and then just freeze the wave and watch as she can no longer farm. gg. [quote=Lugignaf] Also, excuse me if I don't play ADC. I have other people to do that for me while I play my better roles of top, mid and jungle. Or even, *gasp* support! [/quote] That's ok! I'm glad you decided to come in here and spew a torrent of bullshit and misinformation about ADC's, even though you don't play ADC! I think that's really cool and brave of you to just put your head down, stick your fingers in your ears, and just start typing random shit, no matter how little you actually understand this game.[/quote]