Alex Jones destroys piers morgan

[quote=sirell]Yup. Though I don't understand how they think they can get away with hiding nuclear bombings of Japan in their history.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]because this is Amurica, fuck yea![/quote]

[quote=sirell]FREEDOM OF SPEECH, DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, WHOO! But you're not allowed to say bad shit about what we did, okay?[/quote]

[quote=FireLord][quote=Mooninites]all worth because we got nukes and some new technology. worth guys[/quote] because thanks to nukes now we have nuclear energy, which is the cleanest and most economic of all energies. rockets were developed in ww2 by the germans as well, namely the v2 which was the base for future space exploration. penicilin, the most important anti-biotic which has saved hundreds of millions of lives was perfected for proper treating people for and during ww2. radio and radar which are extremely important for controlling planes and such was also perfected for ww2. the first computer was developed for and during ww2 as well, so with no ww2 computers wouldnt be as close to as how developed they are now. these technologies ended up saving much much much more than the 73 million people killed in ww2. without them we would be 20 years behind in technology than we are today.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=sirell] FREEDOM OF SPEECH, DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, WHOO! But you're not allowed to say bad shit about what we did, okay? [/quote] see everyone...this chick gets it![/quote]

[quote=sirell][quote=FireLord] [quote=Mooninites]all worth because we got nukes and some new technology. worth guys[/quote] because thanks to nukes now we have nuclear energy, which is the cleanest and most economic of all energies. [/quote] So... you're ignoring the existence of nuclear waste and the damage it does to the environment, right? Not that I'm anti-nuclear energy or something, but to say it's 'the cleanest and most economic' is kind of a lie.[/quote]

[quote=sirell][quote=The_Nameless_Bard] [quote=sirell] FREEDOM OF SPEECH, DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, WHOO! But you're not allowed to say bad shit about what we did, okay? [/quote] see everyone...this chick gets it! [/quote] Kawkaw. <(*)[/quote]

[quote=FireLord]nuclear waste can be contain and new alternatives to re-use the waste (less efficintly of coarse) and make it less armfull are appearing. even without those new alternaties it still produces much less toxic waste than using fossil fuels. also, because it is more dangerous that waste is treated much more careful and stored properly so it doesn't affect the environment. with other toxic waste companies just try to hide it wherever they can which becomes much much much worse. "A 2008 report from Oak Ridge National Laboratory concluded that coal power actually results in more radioactivity being released into the environment than nuclear power operation, and that the population effective dose equivalent from radiation from coal plants is 100 times as much as from ideal operation of nuclear plants." http://www.ornl.gov/info/ornlreview/rev26-34/text/colmain.html[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=sirell] [quote=FireLord] [quote=Mooninites]all worth because we got nukes and some new technology. worth guys[/quote] because thanks to nukes now we have nuclear energy, which is the cleanest and most economic of all energies. [/quote] So... you're ignoring the existence of nuclear waste and the damage it does to the environment, right? Not that I'm anti-nuclear energy or something, but to say it's 'the cleanest and most economic' is kind of a lie. [/quote] It's far from the cleanest and far from the most efficient. There are lots of better, and safer, ways to amass energy, they're just expensive to put up. "Why spend money on something that hasn't been proven to work when we have stuff that already does, for no extra cost to us?"[/quote]

[quote=sirell][quote=FireLord] nuclear waste can be contain and new alternatives to re-use the waste (less efficintly of coarse) and make it less armfull are appearing. even without those new alternaties it still produces much less toxic waste than using fossil fuels. also, because it is more dangerous that waste is treated much more careful and stored properly so it doesn't affect the environment. with other toxic waste companies just try to hide it wherever they can which becomes much much much worse. "A 2008 report from Oak Ridge National Laboratory concluded that coal power actually results in more radioactivity being released into the environment than nuclear power operation, and that the population effective dose equivalent from radiation from coal plants is 100 times as much as from ideal operation of nuclear plants." http://www.ornl.gov/info/ornlreview/rev26-34/text/colmain.html [/quote] So nuclear power does better than fossil fuels, that automatically makes it the cleanest and most economic? You then have to spend money to contain the waste. Most of the waste is actually toxic and multiple properties of this waste has an extremely long decay (try 5-digit numbers in years for some of them to decay and 6 digit numbers until it's not toxic). And then the space that has been allocated to contain the waste can't be used. Nuclear energy plants also take a huge amount of money to maintain and shutting one down actually costs a lot of money too. Nuclear energy plants are also quite potentially dangerous. The only upside to nuclear energy seems to be that it just produces lots of energy.[/quote]