Diamond ADC/Support

[quote=][quote=DarkPercy] Do you think [[zephyr]] instead of [[phantom dancer]] or [[statikk shiv]] is good on [[draven]]? [/quote] No, You don't need the extra movement speed and PD is too good to pass up, and you need dem critz.[/quote]

[quote=Satella]I have trouble CSing as ADC compared to when I'm in other roles. My CS isn't bad if going by the 10 CS/min mark; I'll usually have around 180-200 at 20 minutes if the game was relatively passive without objectives being contested. However, this is still a good 25-40% less CS than what I see pro players manage by 20 mins. How can I improve my overall CS when I'm playing ADC bot lane? Should I just go and tax other lanes? Would doing this not set my teammates behind and bring more carry responsibility onto me?[/quote]

[quote=DarkPercy][quote=oxide110] [quote=DarkPercy] Do you think [[zephyr]] instead of [[phantom dancer]] or [[statikk shiv]] is good on [[draven]]? [/quote] No, You don't need the extra movement speed and PD is too good to pass up, and you need dem critz. [/quote] But but but but :( I asked cause I saw some Diamond I [[draven]]s get it so I was confused. And Crit isn't THAT necessary on [[draven]]... his passive already gets proc'd by Axes and his Q E or R can not crit. However the free attack speed from his W makes crit really strong :P The [[Draven]]s were mostly mid laners though. Not sure how it has to do with Zephyr xD.[/quote]

[quote=][quote=DarkPercy] [quote=oxide110] [quote=DarkPercy] Do you think [[zephyr]] instead of [[phantom dancer]] or [[statikk shiv]] is good on [[draven]]? [/quote] No, You don't need the extra movement speed and PD is too good to pass up, and you need dem critz. [/quote] But but but but :( I asked cause I saw some Diamond I [[draven]]s get it so I was confused. And Crit isn't THAT necessary on [[draven]]... his passive already gets proc'd by Axes and his Q E or R can not crit. However the free attack speed from his W makes crit really strong :P The [[Draven]]s were mostly mid laners though. Not sure how it has to do with Zephyr xD. [/quote] His Q doesn't crit indeed the base damage does and then the q damage stacks on top, did you know that draven passive stacks?[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi][quote=Satella] How can I improve my overall CS when I'm playing ADC bot lane? Should I just go and tax other lanes? Would doing this not set my teammates behind and bring more carry responsibility onto me? [/quote] I'm not Diamond, but don't forget this when playing ADC: farm the jungle. It takes only a few seconds to take Wolves/Double Golems when coming back to lane, especially if your lane is pushed. You could argue that you're taking "the jungler's farm", but technically he shouldn't be in the jungle farming creeps, he should be out on the lane, farming champions. Obviously don't take objectives like first spawning camps - he needs the XP. But after the first clear, after first recall, and you have a vamp scepter, jungle is free for you to loot for extra XP, CS and gold.[/quote]

[quote=DarkPercy]9999 posts Jhoi LOL No, I actually wasn't aware that it stacked! I'm still confused about how it stacks though... What's the maximum amount of Stacks? Infinity?! lol o.o And attacking with Q and doing a crit at the same time will only apply 1 stack :P.[/quote]

[quote=Satella][quote=DarkPercy] No, I actually wasn't aware that it stacked! I'm still confused about how it stacks though... What's the maximum amount of Stacks? Infinity?! lol o.o [/quote] If they're bleeding when you apply another stack, the damage rolls over, so you don't "lose damage" by attacking really fast.[/quote]

[quote=][quote=jhoijhoi] [quote=Satella] How can I improve my overall CS when I'm playing ADC bot lane? Should I just go and tax other lanes? Would doing this not set my teammates behind and bring more carry responsibility onto me? [/quote] I'm not Diamond, but don't forget this when playing ADC: farm the jungle. It takes only a few seconds to take Wolves/Double Golems when coming back to lane, especially if your lane is pushed. You could argue that you're taking "the jungler's farm", but technically he shouldn't be in the jungle farming creeps, he should be out on the lane, farming champions. Obviously don't take objectives like first spawning camps - he needs the XP. But after the first clear, after first recall, and you have a vamp scepter, jungle is free for you to loot for extra XP, CS and gold. [/quote] This[/quote]

[quote=IAmByakuya]Which ADC's do you main?[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=DarkPercy] No, I actually wasn't aware that it stacked! I'm still confused about how it stacks though... What's the maximum amount of Stacks? Infinity?! lol o.o [/quote] As far as I know the damage stacks indefinitely, the duration is always reset to 4 seconds.[/quote]