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I don't generally approve with smurfing others accounts higher, because they will get match-ups which don't match with their regular ELO. Doesn't sound fair for the opposing team either.
Nonetheless I also have tried smurfing, which I quit tough. I smurfed Silver games and tbh I didn't find much difference from middle tiers of gold.
It'd be interesting to see how is bronze ELO, because when I was there, I didn't realize it.
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P.S: No bull conversations about elo hell exsitence or not!
Nonetheless I also have tried smurfing, which I quit tough. I smurfed Silver games and tbh I didn't find much difference from middle tiers of gold.
It'd be interesting to see how is bronze ELO, because when I was there, I didn't realize it.
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P.S: No bull conversations about elo hell exsitence or not!
"A person giving you advice isn't perfect and has their own shortcomings but they may give you the piece that you're missing."
To mangle Sartre, Elo Hell is other people.
Pretty sure this applies across the tiers and divisions.
Personally, I wonder how many people got "lucky" on their placement matches and placed high silver, rather than the "unlucky" who placed high bronze. 10 placement matches doesn't really seem like a proper representation of someone's skill.
Pretty sure this applies across the tiers and divisions.
Personally, I wonder how many people got "lucky" on their placement matches and placed high silver, rather than the "unlucky" who placed high bronze. 10 placement matches doesn't really seem like a proper representation of someone's skill.
Joxuu wrote:
I don't generally approve with smurfing others accounts higher, because they will get match-ups which don't match with their regular ELO. Doesn't sound fair for the opposing team either.
If he'd asked me to smurf him up to silver 2 / 1 / gold 5, I wouldn't have accepted. But considering it's only 3 divisions, and once he's Silver V he'll be dropping back down to the elo he was on before I smurfed it, I figured it wouldn't do all that much harm. It's mainly to make him feel better about himself ( "WELL AT LEAST I'M SILVER RATHER THAN BRONZE, THAT'S GOOD RIGHT?" )
And I've always wanted to smurf anyway. My actual smurf is currently at level 17 though, so it's gonna be a while before I can smurf on that.
Anyway, bronzes are actually pretty bad compared to silvers. I've been supported by a nunu who sat in front of the minions auto-attacking them as if his life depended on it ( even if it meant he got the last-hit, rather than leaving it for me ), and eating them every time it was off of cooldown ( even if he was full HP ), had an enemy Morgana support with exhaust + Ignite, a Sona who wanted to use clarity, so when I told her to switch clarity to exhaust, she switched flash for exhaust instead, and last but not least, I've seen an ADC Yi ( as in, he went bot lane with a support, and ended up with 30 cs in about 12 minutes ).
They can CS decently, but quite often they think something which is bad is actually good. E.G, played with a Shen earlier who ran Teleport Ignite. If those were the ideal summoners for him, wouldn't we see those at higher level play?
Also, had a Sona earlier who didn't seem to remember what her ult did, because she was in a position to ult their 40% HP Vayne tons of times and didn't do it, until I eventually asked her to.
1v1'd the dragon before the 20 minute mark plenty of times too.
So yeah, what makes them bad is their lack of knowledge, experience, and, well... They're dumb. Mechanically they're just as good as Silvers. And most of the ADC's I've seen don't seem to realize just how much damage Draven can do.
Isn't this against Riot's ToS?
Also, elo hell isn't a thing, I'm sure we covered this already. 50% of the league population is bronze, if you feel "stuck" in ranked, it's very likely that you aren't good enough to belong anywhere else.
Also, elo hell isn't a thing, I'm sure we covered this already. 50% of the league population is bronze, if you feel "stuck" in ranked, it's very likely that you aren't good enough to belong anywhere else.
Mazuran wrote:
Personally, I wonder how many people got "lucky" on their placement matches and placed high silver, rather than the "unlucky" who placed high bronze. 10 placement matches doesn't really seem like a proper representation of someone's skill.
Placement matches are a complete joke. The idea behind them is ok, but they're so much more important than the hundreds of games you can play afterwards, it's ridiculous.
Same applies to the division/promotion series; back when elo was the only rating, every game had the same "weight" so to speak. No game was arbitrarily more important than others. Now your promotion can get artificially delayed if you don't win a BO3/BO5.
Wayne3100 wrote:
Placement matches are a complete joke. The idea behind them is ok, but they're so much more important than the hundreds of games you can play afterwards, it's ridiculous.
I'm probably a good example of that - I qualified at bronze 1 (5 wins, 5 losses). A few games later, I'm in bronze 2 (currently at 8 wins to something like 14 losses). I'll probably drop another division after that as well, so go figure. I'm weirdly ok with this - bit miffed, sure, but I'm not gonna rage over it.
Makes me wonder if they should just chuck everyone in at bronze 5 to begin with and see who can climb out. THEN I reckon you'd get a better approximation of skill.
Would suck for the so-called pro players, but they'd get over it I'm sure. More opportunity to show how good they are, I guess.
Mazuran wrote:
Personally, I wonder how many people got "lucky" on their placement matches and placed high silver, rather than the "unlucky" who placed high bronze. 10 placement matches doesn't really seem like a proper representation of someone's skill.
I got placed into Bronze I in S3 (my ELO in S2 was ****, something like 900 so expectations weren't high) and thought it would be really hard to break out of it. I dropped down to Bronze IV before I eventually dashed to the top Silver I and felt really close to advancing.
However, I just ended up balancing 85LP in Silver I for weeks until my MMR was so hosed that I only won 3LP for victory but lost 6LP for a loss, preventing me from ever reaching 100LP any time soon. Breaking out of Silver is actually much harder for me than it was for breaking out of Bronze.
I'm saying this just to give an example of how being in Silver can be just as unlucky or even worse.
(I guess it could be debated that I maybe just don't belong to being in Gold ... though I don't personally feel that way but meh, that doesn't mean anything, I guess.)
Anyways, I think the way to get out of Bronze is to abuse whatever is currently OP and has high carry potential. Learn it well and play it.
In my case it was duo queueing though as I played the majority of my Bronze games as Support. Now that I'm stuck in Silver I decided to go back to improve my Mid lanes though since Support apparently won't allow me to promote.
At first I really wanted to rush out of Silver I since I was always so close but I eventually learned that rushing got me nowhere so I'm taking the patient approach now.
(Wow, this ended up to be a lot of ranting. Sorry. :D)
Mazuran wrote:
I'm probably a good example of that - I qualified at bronze 1 (5 wins, 5 losses). A few games later, I'm in bronze 2 (currently at 8 wins to something like 14 losses). I'll probably drop another division after that as well, so go figure. I'm weirdly ok with this - bit miffed, sure, but I'm not gonna rage over it.
Makes me wonder if they should just chuck everyone in at bronze 5 to begin with and see who can climb out. THEN I reckon you'd get a better approximation of skill.
Would suck for the so-called pro players, but they'd get over it I'm sure. More opportunity to show how good they are, I guess.
Actually, that would suck for anyone who isn't a pro. The reason people don't all start at the same Elo at the start of a new season is that it's completely ridiculous to put a previously bronze player vs a diamond player. The bronze will get stomped. If every player were at the same Elo, the bad players would get trampled on left right and center until all the pros had finished climbing out.
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BULL. ****.
Me smurfing on my rl friend's bronze 3 account on a champion with whom I have a total of 5 normal games played as in total on my main, with an AD carry rune page that had AP quints. Oh and I hadn't played LoL for a week before that.
Every player I've seen has been absolutely horrible. I couldn't have lost even if I'd TRIED. If you're in bronze and have been there for ages, you damn well deserve to be there for the time being. :@
Anyways I guess this will also be my ranked journey on this account. My friend asked me to raise him up to silver so he won't lose all the time. He'll 100% drop back down to the Elo he was on before, but he'll feel happy thinking he's silver rather than bronze, so I figured why not.
I'll mainly be playing Draven because he's really fun at this Elo.
The account is "johansebag".