They didn't just shoot themselves in the foot, they blew it clean off and they're about to start limping around.
Oh, Microsoft was actually first. They just failed miserably and probably abandoned the idea completely.
from 2005 or so
sounds like a nice little article I read awhile back about piracy and how to deal with it eh tosh and searz?
Indeed. I hope you've read my wall of text towards the end of that. Lots of good stuff if I remember correctly.
Let's make 'Xbox Lastone' a thing, lol.
Pheyniex wrote:
Allowed Apple to be first on tablet release.
Oh, Microsoft was actually first. They just failed miserably and probably abandoned the idea completely.
from 2005 or soBioalchemist wrote:
sounds like a nice little article I read awhile back about piracy and how to deal with it eh tosh and searz?
Indeed. I hope you've read my wall of text towards the end of that. Lots of good stuff if I remember correctly.
Quoted:
in any case. microsoft can kiss its console/game development department goodbye because they probably lost 90% of their consumers with this move. if they had ONE gamer in their development team they would have known better than to make this junk. RIP xbox.
Let's make 'Xbox Lastone' a thing, lol.
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"I also am Otherkin. Whenever autumn rolls around I can feel my kin-type slowly taking over my body. You must know, I identify as pumpkin. I can control it pretty good most of the time, but when September ends, I just cant hold it in anymore. Whenever Im outside I see my brothers and sisters being chopped into soup, coffee, donuts, cake, drinks, bread - ppl even cut human faces into their skin, making a mockery out of their noble appearance. When I see things like that I cant control my pumpkin urges anymore. My natural instincts kick in. I then sit down motionless, while getting bright orange." - Morgana L
"I also am Otherkin. Whenever autumn rolls around I can feel my kin-type slowly taking over my body. You must know, I identify as pumpkin. I can control it pretty good most of the time, but when September ends, I just cant hold it in anymore. Whenever Im outside I see my brothers and sisters being chopped into soup, coffee, donuts, cake, drinks, bread - ppl even cut human faces into their skin, making a mockery out of their noble appearance. When I see things like that I cant control my pumpkin urges anymore. My natural instincts kick in. I then sit down motionless, while getting bright orange." - Morgana L
The specs for the GPU in Xbox Lastone are finally out. (RAM is important since the GPU will use the RAM too)
Xbox Lastone:
GPU: AMD Radeon HD
12 CU, 1,23 TFLOPs
768 SP
DX11.1
RAM:
8 GB DDR3, 68 GB/s bandwidth
256-bit, 2 133 MHz
32 MB SRAM, 102 GB/s bandwidth
PS4:
AMD Radeon HD
18 CU, 1,84 TFLOPs
1152 SP
DX11.1
RAM:
8 GB GDDR5, 176 GB/s bandwidth
256-bit, 5,5 GHz
10 MB eDRAM, 32 GB/s bandwidth
In essence we could assume that the PS4 will be roughly 33% more powerful in the GPU department. (the CPU will be exactly the same on both though)
One fun thing to note is that the they use exactly opposite RAM to each other.
DDR3 has reasonably high bandwidth and low latency. GDDR5 has very high bandwidth, but higher latency.
Low latency is important to the CPU, while high bandwidth is important to the GPU.
And they're both trying to cover their own shortcomings by adding another small memory chip with the opposite function.
The PS4 solution does seem like the more elegant one though, since the CPU generally doesn't need as much space in RAM as the GPU.
Xbox Lastone:
GPU: AMD Radeon HD
12 CU, 1,23 TFLOPs
768 SP
DX11.1
RAM:
8 GB DDR3, 68 GB/s bandwidth
256-bit, 2 133 MHz
32 MB SRAM, 102 GB/s bandwidth
PS4:
AMD Radeon HD
18 CU, 1,84 TFLOPs
1152 SP
DX11.1
RAM:
8 GB GDDR5, 176 GB/s bandwidth
256-bit, 5,5 GHz
10 MB eDRAM, 32 GB/s bandwidth
In essence we could assume that the PS4 will be roughly 33% more powerful in the GPU department. (the CPU will be exactly the same on both though)
One fun thing to note is that the they use exactly opposite RAM to each other.
DDR3 has reasonably high bandwidth and low latency. GDDR5 has very high bandwidth, but higher latency.
Low latency is important to the CPU, while high bandwidth is important to the GPU.
And they're both trying to cover their own shortcomings by adding another small memory chip with the opposite function.
The PS4 solution does seem like the more elegant one though, since the CPU generally doesn't need as much space in RAM as the GPU.
"You can't have your privacy violated if you don't know your privacy is violated." - Mike Rogers, U.S. Representative for Michigan's 8th congressional district, 2013
I.e: Mike Rogers doesn't think it's rape unless the victim knows (s)he has been raped. Sounds legit.
I.e: Mike Rogers doesn't think it's rape unless the victim knows (s)he has been raped. Sounds legit.
I am trying to formulate some reason as to why I found this presentation much more underwhelming than the PS4's... but I am drawing a blank. Maybe because PS4 was first? idunno.
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"I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen F Roberts
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In this case, Microsoft intended to preemptively prevent copyright infrigement, making somehow look that users will be heavilly spied on. ofc, no one wants that.
sounds like a nice little article I read awhile back about piracy and how to deal with it eh tosh and searz?
in any case. microsoft can kiss its console/game development department goodbye because they probably lost 90% of their consumers with this move. if they had ONE gamer in their development team they would have known better than to make this junk. RIP xbox.