What do you do when an enemy team loses solely...

[quote=Darcurse]Same here... the most fun LoL can give a person as myself is a thrilling and even game. So it kinda trashs everything if you'd be in a bad spot and only can turn everything around with a sudden 5vs4. But take it this way: You could have been in this bad spot before the enemy's afk thanks to one of your teammates fucking it up, being the losing factor on your side, makes it kinda even then. It's a give and take. LoL isn't some kind of noble sport, the best you can do is be polite about getting a free win.[/quote]

[quote=Ninja Trigger][quote=recnib] unless you know that the person went AFK intentionally, DO NOT report them. [/quote] Exactly life happens and players shouldn't be punished for a power out that's out of their control, but rage quit = an report.[/quote]

[quote=Mowen]I just play and make sure to say at the end something along the lines of "Sorry you had an AFK, that sucks," and of course don't brag. I usually feel better when the other team apologizes for you having bad luck that game. I won a ranked game the other day because their jungler DC'd. He came back early but he was behind in levels. Then again, if it was me I wouldn't be chilling in mid lane with no health versus a TF (he did this twice). So yeah I killed him both times he showed his face and he called me a bitch. ^_^ I don't think anybody on the other team will really be down on you if you always play to win, as long as you aren't rude about it. If they are insulting you for playing to win when you did nothing to provoke them then they don't deserve your pity anyways.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Mowen] I just play and make sure to say at the end something along the lines of "Sorry you had an AFK, that sucks," and of course don't brag. I usually feel better when the other team apologizes for you having bad luck that game. I won a ranked game the other day because their jungler DC'd. He came back early but he was behind in levels. Then again, if it was me I wouldn't be chilling in mid lane with no health versus a TF (he did this twice). So yeah I killed him both times he showed his face and he called me a bitch. ^_^ I don't think anybody on the other team will really be down on you if you always play to win, as long as you aren't rude about it. If they are insulting you for playing to win when you did nothing to provoke them then they don't deserve your pity anyways. [/quote] Pretty much this, just go 'gg wp' and apologise for the afk/dc. Sure you can be a douchebag about it but how does that help you? I mean games with afks can still be incredibly fun and helpful.[/quote]

[quote=YayaFTW]There's a french saying I like: "C'est le geste qui compte." It means that it's not the act that matters but the intention to act that does. You indeed tried to surrender for the sake of fair play given the fact that it was a 100% loss for you if their mid didn't afk, right? It was a nice thing to do for the enemy team indeed. But think about this: Do you have the right to force your principles on other strangers in your team? Do you think that being an ass to your bot lane and sit still at base because of your own beliefs, is the right thing to do? This goes without saying but if this was ranked, there should be no mercy. What if it was ranked and your bot lane was on a promotion series and they needed to win that game in order to reach a higher tier, let's say a 2W-2L going for diamond and you're premade with anyone. You sit at base and leave them 4v4, making them lose teamfights and eventually lose the game. Did you even realize that the bot lane just lost not only 1 game, but 3 games, 2 for those 3 games were totally fair and he worked his ass off to carry and win them? All of that because you tried to force your principles on them? Think beyond what you can see, what seems right for you to do doesn't always seem right for others. That bot lane needed the win, what gives you the right to take it away from them? I personally would have agreed with you and surrendered in that normal game. I'm not a guy who takes vengeance on randoms for some afks I had in some previous games. If it was a clear win for them and they were losing because of the afk, I'd surrender. If we were stomping them already and some enemy went afk, I'd take the win. If they were clearly winning and I wanted to give them the win but my teammates didn't want to, then I'd have played. I wouldn't have sat at base, I would have played. We are all equals, we are no god. You should have respected your teammate's decision. Bot lane wanted that win, then you have no right to bail on them and take it away from them. That's just low.[/quote]

[quote=Omnislash GG]I've never heard of surrendering just because an enemy went AFK. I've heard of surrendering because YOUR teammate went AFK, but never for an enemy. Take the win and move on. It's bad luck for them, or good luck for you, depending on how you look at it. Nobody would ever surrender for your team because of that. I would just take the win and report the leaver. Nothing else to be done there.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][quote=Satella] I start a surrender vote [/quote] This is fine. The surrender system has its own rules in place that necessitate an almost unanimous decision to surrender. If 4/5 members of your team think the game is worth conceding in favor of good sportsmanship or pity or whatever, then fine. I'd hate to be that 5th guy who wants to win, but it's still fair. [quote=Satella] My friends and I decide to just sit at nexus turret for the rest of the game to punish them for this [/quote] This is not fine. Don't make a bad game worse by breaking the summoner's code yourselves. D/C's are bad and 4v5s suck, but afking to lose the game because you think it's nice is not cool. Not only are you breaking League rules, you're ruining the game for your teammates. The other team doesn't need the win any more than you do. I fail to see how turning the game into a complete joke is any better than taking the victory like most people do in a 5v4 scenario. Also, you'd be surprised at the games you can win (or lose). My roommate wins almost every 4v5 he plays and he has won a 3v5 in ranked (high silver). I've lost several 5v4s, some in ranked, and even more when the d/c'd person comes back, even if they're 15 minutes late to the game or something. Personally, the most I'd ever do out of sportsmanship is to spare a disconnected player a helpless death and let them return to base safely. Other than that, there's nothing more you can do to actually make the game more fair. Having one of your teammates afk to make it a 4v4 isn't the same as having those players in the game in a 5v5. Completely surrendering just because the other team is losing 4v5 isn't fair at all. If you're in a game with your friends and you decide to surrender to make the other team's day, then cool, go for it. Don't ruin the game for your teammates when they want to win. I'd take a d/c over an intentional afk any day of the week.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][quote=Ninja Trigger] [quote=recnib] unless you know that the person went AFK intentionally, DO NOT report them. [/quote] Exactly life happens and players shouldn't be punished for a power out that's out of their control, but rage quit = an report. [/quote] Not really, to be honest. Reporting a disconnected player is perfectly legitimate. If that player constantly disconnects from games due to their internet, they're about as harmful to the community as ragequitters (though obviously without the angry part). If you want to spare people from possible punishment because of poor internet connection, but that's up to you. Don't expect Riot to go easy on someone just because they aren't afking or leaving intentionally. A 4v5 is a 4v5 whether it's intentional or not. If you're going to play a game like this, you can't have a chronic internet connectivity issue that disrupts a lot of games for 9 other players. Plus pretty much no one gets punished for isolated incidents, except maybe low level summoners. If it's a one-time thing, they won't get tempbanned or anything.[/quote]

[quote=Ninja Trigger][quote=PsiGuard] [quote=Ninja Trigger] [quote=recnib] unless you know that the person went AFK intentionally, DO NOT report them. [/quote] Exactly life happens and players shouldn't be punished for a power out that's out of their control, but rage quit = an report. [/quote] Not really, to be honest. Reporting a disconnected player is perfectly legitimate. If that player constantly disconnects from games due to their internet, they're about as harmful to the community as ragequitters (though obviously without the angry part). If you want to spare people from possible punishment because of poor internet connection, but that's up to you. Don't expect Riot to go easy on someone just because they aren't afking or leaving intentionally. A 4v5 is a 4v5 whether it's intentional or not. If you're going to play a game like this, you can't have a chronic internet connectivity issue that disrupts a lot of games for 9 other players. Plus pretty much no one gets punished for isolated incidents, except maybe low level summoners. If it's a one-time thing, they won't get tempbanned or anything. [/quote] I see what your saying about reporting someone for leaving, If someone is always leaving leavebuster will eventually warn/ban them, so I don't report every time I come across an afk player it's more of a case by case bases for me, the only leave that I have on my account to my knowledge is from a power outage and one leave in 3 years is a really good record I think. I just hate the fact that I may have had 4 reports against me for something completely out of my control, but even then I just take it case by case, if they are afk from the beginning of the game that's different then a disconnect for the last two minutes of a game. The first one is a report and the second one I ask certain questions before reporting, like why did he leave, etc, then I decide if i'm going to report at the end of a game. ragequit is always a report from me though, unless they were just being eaten alive by a flamer, but I haven't seen someone leave a game from being harassed in a long time.[/quote]

[quote=Forgottenduty]From all the countless times I've been in a 4v5 team I've never seen the enemy trying to surrender to give us the game, instead they push really hard to press on the 4v5 advantage. Just report the leaver and play your game. Having a leaver in ranked though is the most annoying thing ever..[/quote]