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Elo Hell

Creator: Ilynx September 8, 2013 12:29am
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Do you think that it exists?
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Now I know that many of you guys, if you have been in ranked before, have been on a losing streak. But can this losing streak really get to the point where you think the matchmaking system is so bad in ranked that you should call it Elo Hell? Should the term be erased? Or perhaps reinforced as a physical concept in ranked? I'd like to see your views on the controversial subject.
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Losing streaks = You play bad.

I checked your main champions and in top 10, you had ~7 carries, 1 support, 2 bruisers, yet you had negative KDA. I understand KDA doesn't matter when going in a game, but from it I could make a conclusion that when you have played a carry, you haven't carried.

a huge losing streaks means that you haven't carried and you're just not good enough yet. It's really easy to get out from silver once you look back at your mistakes and realize why you haven't been able to carry, wether it's lack of cs, positioning, knowledge over trades etc...

Sometimes you get less hopeful situations like I've had 6 AFK streak in Gold 1 where your teammates just go bat-**** insane, because they give up while the truth is that we couldn't carry it. If you play well and carry your team, it means that you can climb elo.

So tl;dr elo hell = You can't carry and most likely play bad and blame it on teammates or riot's system and continue playing bad. So dunno, for some it is there, but some don't just even care about the word as it doens't excist for some.

I used to believe I was in "ELO Hell" at Silver V, but truth was I sucked balls. I practiced for couple months, looked at my mistakes, started playing bigger roles with bigger champions and I started to climb elo.

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It cannot exist, mathematically.

Joxuu has covered everything, I don't need to add anything.

And yes, I've played at Bronze 3 myself, and now I'm diamond...
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Elo hell does not exist, and if you think otherwise then you're garb and I have a personal hatred for you that transcends beyond what is describable by any language man has ever written.
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I believe elo hell is a state of mind more than an actual thing
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Like others have said losing = frustration > frustration = playing bad > playing bad = losing

And it just loops change your state of mind, and maybe practice a bit more on the basics.

Last hitting
Positioning in team fights
Map Awareness
Not picking champions because champ select says they counter but because you know how to play them
Etc
Etc

also I just barely started playing ranked and so far so good I'm in bronze one and have seen some of my team mates do the most stupid things possible, but I should be able to carry myself out of it :)

hopefully
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There's no such thing as Elo hell, which by definition is basically "an elo so low that you can't climb out of it because your teams are really bad".

I've smurfed in bronze 3, and the enemy team was just as bad as my team. I got into silver with 12/1 w/l as Talon, and 10/1 as Draven, a champion I'd never even played before on my main account. I just bought it on my smurf and stomped bronzies.

Even before I was a plat level player, in season 2 I was 890 Elo at one point. I eventually ended the season at 1305 Elo.

There's no Elo in which your team is worse than the enemy team. You can go on loss streaks for reasons you can't help, but in general, if you're better than the people in your Elo you inevitably climb. Because your team is 4 players worse than you + you, while the enemy team is 5 players worse than you. If you can't carry games constantly enough to climb, then the problem lies with you, not with your teams.
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ELO hell exists in only peoples' minds.
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There is only 1 elo-hell and that's the Gate of fabby.
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so what people here are saying is that in a team based game where everyone has a role, 1 person can carry a team to a victory against another 5 man team?...i believe this to be utter bull.


There is no way this is possible, i seen too many games lost cos of 1 or two people ****ing it up to believe seriously that 1 person in a team can carry a whole team to victory.


Not saying i believe in ELO hell, that is really just a state of mind, but i do have to say a at least half ***ed team is needed to stand any chance of winning a game.

(either that or some of u need to come back down here to B5/B4 lol)
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