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Help and Advice on making a Fiora Build

Creator: MyBloodisBlack September 14, 2013 3:16pm
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First of all I have no problem with being told I am wrong as long as people give a legit reason for me being wrong, I do not accept the excuse that my build won't work simply because its Fiora. No one bothered to try the build, they knocked it simply because of who it was designed for and I can't accept ignorance like that Im sorry.


Yo wtf. We GAVE legit reasons as to why your items were bad. You went full glass cannon and that's a no-no on a champion with a **** gap closer, no disengage and susceptible to CC. We then provided a build alternative.

And as a SIDE COMMENT, I said any build with Fiora is most likely useless because she's just inherently trash.

Don't call us ignorant if we actually acknowledge your build AND provide alternatives to help you improve, Jesus ****ing Christ.


And you say I dont take advice, well you would be wrong because I did which is why items like Frozen Mallet and Spirit Visage are now in my build and works wonders to which I am thankful for that advice.


Then stop saying we're disrespecting you for ****'s sakes. We give you item builds, we give you websites that will help you (which you then say you don't need), we tell you to study players that use Fiora. It wouldn't hurt for you to show a little appreciation after we help you instead of accusing us of disrespecting you (and yeah, I am disrespecting you now, because quite frankly you've ****ing earned it... again). I looked through your comments and I could not find you thanking us seriously even ONCE. I may have actually missed it, but suffice it to say, your appreciation is few and far between. Don't you dare talk about disrespect.


And yes my score of 8-21-8 was bad but as I correctly pointed out the build had little to do with it and more to do with the fact I made bad calls including doing bot lane 2 on 1 against Sejuani and Nunu & Willump for so long, that was my carelessness.

However thankfully a friend of mine who is a vastly better player was kind enough to try my build out and he got a much better 16-3-6 instead and gave me his opinion based on his experience which helped me to fix more flaws.


So why are you the one writing this guide again? Seeing as you require just about EVERYONE ELSE to do the ****ing work for you? Also, what's his username?

Wait Fiora is trash? I love her though...


I love Magikarp too, doesn't mean he can 1v4 the Elite Four. Okay, I don't like Magikarp, but the point should be there. As I said in the first pages, I love Fiora too (she's in my top 5), but it doesn't mean I can main her to Diamond. Liking a champion and a champion being viable are two very separate things.
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I don't play Fiora personally, but GMD says her problem is her lack of escape during laning phase rather than her team-fighting, I think.
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No one ever earns disrespect Sirell, people give disrespect to those they don't understand or wish to understand, thats the difference between myself and you - I have the upmost respect for all on mobafire, you however good sir seem to assume if a new person isnt kissing up to you that they are being disrespectful.

I have fairly and correctly explained myself, I do not want to see the best players build because I am creating my own, I respectfully listened to all the builds that helped towards my build and not others because why would I listen to people saying "you lifesteal build sucks...build a tank instead" when its meant to be MY build and not their style of build which I believe is fair dos.

The reason I asked for help was because I had never written a guide before and I didnt wanna just say "please try me" because I have respect for those who took the time to write up their works.
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Oh, so serial gunmen shooting up kids in elementary schools earns my eternal admiration, then?

No, you can certainly do something to earn disrespect, such as ignoring advice and calling others disrespectful (which you have done). When people help you (and it's help you ASKED for) and you don't even show your appreciation and, on top of this, you decide to behave in a manner that is disrespectful: sulking like a child, disregarding what people say and you DO actually do this, so don't even try and claim you don't, disrespecting the experience of other people who have played this game longer:

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I can only speak from my own view, my own experience and my own opinion because its the only one I can rely on.


And I'm not talking about myself, I'm talking about the pro players that you refuse to research or the high tier players that you've disregarded because you somehow seem to think you know better or that your experience is even remotely sufficient (hint: it's not).

You can respect by doing things that are respect-worthy and respectful. You earn contempt and disrespect for being a douchebag.

I'm not asking you to 'kiss up to me' (eugh, go away). I'm telling to use your ****ing brain. Many of the things you say don't employ logic, or they employ faulty experience. On many occasions, you DO NOT correctly nor fairly explain yourself:

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I am willing to admit I have no really valid reason for her


Good start here.

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however for whats worth in my opinion Fiora isn't a bad champion to use


You ****ed up.

You have no valid reason for her being a good top laner, but in your opinion, she isn't a bad champion to use...? What the actual...? Mind you, this is just ONE example, because there certainly are more (like when you talk about how you improve... as if there were really different types of improvement... the only way to measure success is winning games against progressively higher level players).

And just now you say:

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The reason I asked for help was because I had never written a guide before and I didnt wanna just say "please try me" because I have respect for those who took the time to write up their works.


And yet you aren't looking at other people's guides! You don't even LOOK at what pro players use (or at least, you acknowledge you don't). You don't do your research and then you sulk and mope like such a ******* kid just because we suggested you don't do something!

You want to make a unique build? You want to make a guide that's uniquely yours? YOU'RE PLAYING THE WRONG ****ING GAME. Everything you're thinking of doing has already been done. There are 5 million concurrent players in League of Legends. What makes you think you're so unique that you've thought of something or, at the stage you're at, you're going to come up with anything even REMOTELY new or unique to you? Wake up, man. I'm not asking you to kiss my ***, I'm asking you to just use your frigging head.

Ugh, *******, I'm feeling my IQ drop just talking to you. I'm outta here.

Fiora is trash. A Fiora guide can be nice. A good Fiora guide won't make her any of a better champion. /endthread
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You know what Sirell, You want me to respect you because you played Longer, you are more knowledgable than I am and you all that - You going to be waiting a while because I don't respect people who think they can DEMAND respect, if you are better at League of Legends then that is call but never for a second believe that gives you the right to treat me like dirt and talk down on me because of it.

Actually I have alot of respect for Pro Players and High Tiers, If I thought I was good even to learn anything from them then I would be watching their videos 24/7 even at work because I want to be better at this game and I have worked hard in order to get better too, Once again do not assume that I am disrespectful to those great players because I am not and I never will be (no matter what you say)

I love the fact you say I ****ed up because I expressed my opinion, you have the nerve to tell me I am disrespectful to people and then you put something like that which is 10 times more disrespectful than what you claim I am.

and saying I am in the wrong game for trying to be unique? You serious believe that because that just means you are exactly the same as 5 million other people and you are not, you definately aren't because i know 2,000 players and they are respectful towards my efforts and they are happy to listen and understand my side before pointing out any mistakes I made whilst you Sirell, you just spend your time telling me what a disrespectful guy I am for doing the stuff you claim I don't and not doing the stuff you claim I do.

And finally because you seem to have a short term memory, I do use my brain however considering I am unfortunately Autistic and Aspergers I make mistake and most times I am happy to correct my mistakes but when someone like you comes along and talks down on me for making human errors then I won't apologise instead I will snap back.

Also dont EVER disrespect this thread by trying to end it because you are sulking, if you were any kind of person you would sort it out like a real adult.
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Magikarp can 1v5 the elite 4 and champion btw :P Just saying

But seriously Fiora has no escape and thats it for her unviable parts... I still think she can be played up till gold.
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I'm not even talking about myself. I'm not talking about the disrespect you have for me. I'm talking about the disrespect you had for Embracing, for GMD and all the pro players that you actually DID disrespect when you said you didn't even want to look at their builds through the link Embracing gave you. You don't even know you're so disrespectful, that's the worse thing. I didn't treat you like dirt. I talked to you like an equal. I informed you with all due respect concerning Fiora (buildwise and status within gameplay) and you turn around and say 'oh, I feel like I'm being disrespected'. Yeah, **** you.

Actually I have alot of respect for Pro Players and High Tiers, If I thought I was good even to learn anything from them then I would be watching their videos 24/7 even at work because I want to be better at this game and I have worked hard in order to get better too, Once again do not assume that I am disrespectful to those great players because I am not and I never will be (no matter what you say)


What a bunch of ********... and you don't even know it. How sad.

I love the fact you say I ****ed up because I expressed my opinion, you have the nerve to tell me I am disrespectful to people and then you put something like that which is 10 times more disrespectful than what you claim I am.


Uh... du yu eviin logik?

Look, you admitted you had no valid reason as to why Fiora is a good champion and then you say that in your opinion, Fiora is a good champion. Do you actually understand how to formulate basic sentences? Do you understand that what you said is contradictory? Your opinion is absolutely irrelevant when you say two things which are contradictory.

To put it EVEN MORE SIMPLY for your baby mind, what you said is essentially the same as saying, 'There is no reason that 1+1=3, but 1+1=3'.

and saying I am in the wrong game for trying to be unique? You serious believe that because that just means you are exactly the same as 5 million other people and you are not, you definately aren't because i know 2,000 players and they are respectful towards my efforts and they are happy to listen and understand my side before pointing out any mistakes I made whilst you Sirell, you just spend your time telling me what a disrespectful guy I am for doing the stuff you claim I don't and not doing the stuff you claim I do.


Wrong. That's not the comparison I made. I guess you err in making analogies and parallels as well. I said that you're not trying or making anything new. And you are correct, I am the same as the 5 million other people playing this game. I rarely create something new and when I think I have, I find out that some other person has used it 3 months previous to me.

As for not pointing out your mistakes respectfully...? What the actual ****...? Did you read the first 3-4 pages or are you just dense?

And not doing the stuff I claim you do? DUDE, I POINT OUT EXAMPLES. ****ING READ FOR ONCE. The fact that you don't even manage to counter-argue or defend yourself from any of these examples ONCE does not help you one bit. It's honestly as if you don't even know how to formulate arguments correctly.

And finally because you seem to have a short term memory, I do use my brain however considering I am unfortunately Autistic and Aspergers I make mistake and most times I am happy to correct my mistakes but when someone like you comes along and talks down on me for making human errors then I won't apologise instead I will snap back.


Well, this explains a lot.

Also dont EVER disrespect this thread by trying to end it because you are sulking, if you were any kind of person you would sort it out like a real adult.


Oh, the irony. I was talking to you like an adult, but then you started sulking like a kid. So as befits your status, I talk to you as if you are (and oh, this you must certainly are) a sulking kid. I only end the thread (well, my participation in it) because I simply don't want to take part any more. But I'll be honest, this is probably the best fun I've had on this website for quite a while.

But yeah, I don't really have anything else to say, I see you have trouble understanding even slightly complex concepts or even basic argument, so I don't want to continue what might be seen as bullying a ******ed kid, so...

Goodbye.
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Magikarp can 1v5 the elite 4 and champion btw :P Just saying

But seriously Fiora has no escape and thats it for her unviable parts... I still think she can be played up till gold.


It's just an example. Let's say a Magikarp on equal level and no flail.
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How about you guys just ignore each others? Each threat ends up in a discussion that is cancerous as ****.
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Vynertje wrote:

How about you guys just ignore each others? Each threat ends up in a discussion that is cancerous as ****.


Too fun tho.

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