Help and Advice on making a Fiora Build

[quote=MyBloodisBlack][quote=Quite Nomible] [quote=MyBloodisBlack] Im going to assume people believe I am unworthy of playing League of Legends and won't want to aid me in my learning :( [/quote] http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/new-player-help there are people on this site that are even that kind enough to tutor someone to become better. try it if you want :) [/quote] Thank you for your kindness good person[/quote]

[quote=Coldmischief][quote=sirell] To start off, your build is ridiculously squishy. You're likely going to be poked down and even a [[thornmail]] won't help you in that regard. You have no tenacity and no defences so you're pretty much gonna get stunlocked and killed. Even if you do somehow survive, you will do an ult, wreck lots of damage and then... die. Lifesteal isn't going to save you when you can't autoattack. Another point is that [[Fiora]] has absolutely 0 sticking power unless she has a [[frozen mallet]]. [[blade of the ruined king]] isn't that good an item on her given the active range nerf means that she can rarely get in range to properly autoattack efficiently before most opponents just run away from her. Not to mention you don't have any spectacular movement speed to keep up with enemies. Your build is ridiculously expensive and [[fiora]] isn't exactly a farming monster during any time in the game. The truth is that it's pretty hard to itemize for [[fiora]] during a game because she's pretty bad as a champion overall. The only time she has maximum kill potential is at level 4 and level 6 due to her burst at those levels. After that, most top laners will just outscale her and be more useful in a teamfight environment. [[fiora]] can't engage, can't peel, can't tank and just gets kited 24/7. Even at level 4 she has problems killing enemies because she has a really crap gap closer and no CC to make sure she lands her AA damage. Most champs can just walk away from her. If she rushes [[frozen mallet]] to get the slows she needs to AA the enemy to death, she loses damage and gets out-traded. If she rushes damage first like [[ravenous hydra]] as a lot of [[fiora]] players seem to do, she gets damage, a meh wave-clear but no way to stick that damage onto the enemy. My honest advice is actually just to avoid writing a guide on how to play [[fiora]] because she is just so bad that no one should play her. If you want to survive laning, I would suggest stacking [[doran's blade]]s to begin with into your first major item (probably [[ravenous hydra]] or [[bloodthirster]]). After that, I don't know. An end build might look something like: [[Mercury's treads]] (because she is just too susceptible to CC) [[Ravenous Hydra]] [[Last Whisper]] [[Frozen Mallet]] [[Phantom Dancer]] [[Guardian Angel]] Alternatives may include: [[youmuu's ghostblade]] [[statikk shiv]] [[wit's end]] [[infinity edge]] [[bloodthirster]] [[black cleaver]] [[warmog's armor]] [[spirit visage]] [[banshee's veil]] [[trinity force]] [/quote] Not sure if someone answered you but I will just tell you my opinion. First, he already mentioned Spirit Visage, Second, even with the BotRK nerfs, she already has 2 gap closers, which allows her to get in range for a BotRK. Her W also passively gives you AD, which you also max. 15 AD with the first level and +5 for the next 4. If she rushes Frozen Mallet, your W damage should help you catch back up..Her E also gives her a insane movement speed buff. She can tank, take the damage then ult when your close to death, not that hard. Her ult also lasts for 2 seconds, in which your team can follow up and deal tons of damage. Plus any fiora should get a tiamat early game making her wave clear faster.[/quote]

[quote=Reo Kawamura][quote=MyBloodisBlack] Ok I am just going say this and if people don't want to then thats cool I seriously want to improve as a League of Legends player, I want to learn all I can to improve my gameplay and my skills as a whole but I need help to do so, but not just any help, I need someone who truly understands that I have autism and aspergers and although I am trying that sometimes I will be stubborn and require patience. I know I got alot of improving but I know with a little guidance I can be a good player too, I have the upmost respect for all the best players and even the worst players because I learn so much from everyone I meet so I am now sdmitting my flaws and my mistakes and asking just one person to show me an act of kindness and help me please. [/quote] Well, the million dollar question is, what server do you play on?[/quote]

[quote=sirell][img=http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y501/ZiLong_Yin_Leung/Fioraisuseless_zps48472bfb.jpg?t=1379899967] As if on demand, someone picks [[fiora]] in a ranked game for my Silver I promos. Took [[ignite]]/[[exhaust]], gave First Blood and died again in the first 10 minutes, because she was dumb enough to go [[ignite]]/[[exhaust]]. Only went 5/8/4, meaning she didn't have much impact in the game, especially considering the overall score of: 30/25/62 to 25/31/34. So even though kills and deaths were near, we had a massive advantage through assist gold, which [[fiora]] was not able to get. [[Pantheon]] offered better ganks and map control, even if he did go negative feeding [[swain]] (as did [[Lux]] who couldn't comprehend that she doesn't counter [[swain]] if she stays in his ultimate form's range or walks into his snare). I struggled a bit against [[caitlyn]] and [[leona]] to begin with because they're a really aggressive matchup to play against. But I froze the lane and just outfarmed her. Once I got [[trinity force]], I had no problems. Admittedly, I did die once to [[fiora]], but in exchange, she lost 3 of her teammates and dragon as well as burned both [[ignite]] and [[exhaust]] on me. Other than that, I got two kills onto her and any other fight, [[pantheon]], [[vi] or [[lux]] would literally make her disappear pretty much as soon as the engage started. Once I got a [[guardian angel]], she couldn't touch me. I'd just poke down her entire team with missiles and then [[valkyrie]] in when [[vi]] hit the 'engage' button. [[fiora]] was pushing turrets well, but it cost her every time, since we'd just engage on the enemy team, quadra them and then only need on or two players to recall to deal with her. tl;dr: [[fiora]] sux balls.[/quote]

[quote=sirell][quote=Reo Kawamura] Well, the million dollar question is, what server do you play on? [/quote] He plays on EUW.[/quote]

[quote=Quite Nomible]yeah so I went against a zed once with wukong and I destroyed him with going 11-0 in lane so zed is useless. TL;DR: doing one match and concluding that a champion is useless is just plain stupid, like it actually gives a proper vision of the whole champion gameplay and stuff. you were not even playing toplane either, so the example you gave was close to useless.[/quote]

[quote=MyBloodisBlack][quote=sirell] [quote=Reo Kawamura] Well, the million dollar question is, what server do you play on? [/quote] He plays on EUW. [/quote] Yes, Sirell is right I am on the EUW server[/quote]

[quote=MyBloodisBlack]Maybe this is slightly better? Start off with my mastery for this build is [masteries=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=0-4-0-0-4-0-1-2-1-0-2-2-0-0-1-3-0-1&tree2=0-0-4-0-2-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree3=0-3-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0] The reasoning behind this mastery is give alot of Damage bonus, health and movement speed but you may have noticed the point on Destruction, I have this because this fiora will be designed to deal with Lane Turrets faster to dominate Lanes quicker (or at least I hope so) The Items should hopefully finish with [[Mercury's Treads]] or [[Ninja Tabi]] with an [[Enchantment: Furor]] [[Thornmail]] or [[Last Whisper]] - Depends on if you need more armor [[Vampiric Scepter]] that could be upgraded to [[The Bloodthirster]] [[Ravenous Hydra]] [[Frozen Mallet]] [[Spirit Visage]] this item build has been designed to add more Damage bonuses as well as Armor Penetration, Critical strike chance, Attack and Movement Speed and a massive amount of Lifesteal (24% in total plus the bonus 20% from the [[Spirit Visage]]) [color=#ff0000]of course I will need to know if this indeed exceeding the Lifesteal cap if there is one[/color] When it comes to [[Thornmail]] or [[Last Whisper]] its all depending on your preferance, the Thornmail will offer you more Armor to deal with bigger fights however Last Whisper will help towards dealing greater damage and thus greater sustainability in one on one fights. the whole point of these items is to basically allow Fiora to do more damage as a whole, attack faster and to last on the battlefield longer due to her Lifesteal. finally the runes [runes=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/rune-page-planner#&rune=300:6-356:3-262:9-263:9-391:2-360:1] Ive added 6 armor Penetration and 3 Attack Damage Marks into the build as well as 2 Lifesteal Quints for added Sustainability[/quote]

[quote=Thatdudeinthecotton]While [[spirit visage]] does boost the heal from lifesteal, it doesn't increase a characters lifesteal stat (when you check their stats that is, the number won't change). Not that it matters though since there isn't a lifesteal cap. I think youd be well served with getting a [[vampiric scepter]] right after boots as it provides good sustain. Would maybe swap [[last whisper]] for a [[youmuu's ghostblade]], as it builds out of [[the brutalizer]] (a pretty strong, cost efficient item), provides crit, CDR and has a powerful active for going all in (or running away, whatever). Finally I think you may want to get [[frozen mallet]] a bit sooner as the sticking power and health it provides is probably better than a second lifesteal item at mid game.[/quote]

[quote=MyBloodisBlack]So basically [[spirit visage]] gives 20% to whatever heals you e.g. if Lifesteal gives you 100 health then spirit visage will add an extra 20 heal back yes? I do like the idea of [[Youmuu's ghostblade]] although the items I listed arent actually in any order - in truth if they were they would go as follows [[Ravenous Hydra]] [[Frozen mallet]] [[Mercury's treads]] and [[enchantment: Furor]] [[Spirit Visage]] [[Vampiric Scepter]] [[Youmuu's ghostblade]] or [[Thornmail]] But thank you for pointing that out to me[/quote]