Is My Darius Build Any Good?

[quote=Vynertje][quote=Meiyjhe] [quote=Ziagos] Lol, you're funny. Anybody can be level 30. I could have said I was level 30, would that change your opinion? I've played with level 30s before, I know how the game works. The only thing summoner level determines is how much time you put into playing the game. [/quote] If it makes you feel better, there are a lot of ppl at lvl 30 that still suck :3 [/quote] But not as bad that they will build IE+PD on Darius. [quote=Ziagos] Well my build works for me, and I am open to criticism. Please tell me how to improve my build. [/quote] It works cause you're playing with/against people who don't have a clue how to play either. Standard darius build would include rushing [[sunfire cape]], unless you are ahead, then you can build [[ravenous hydra]] or [[the brutalizer]]. Then follow it with items like [[randuin's omen]] and [[hexdrinker]][/quote]

[quote=Ziagos][quote=Meiyjhe] [quote=Ziagos] Lol, you're funny. Anybody can be level 30. I could have said I was level 30, would that change your opinion? I've played with level 30s before, I know how the game works. The only thing summoner level determines is how much time you put into playing the game. [/quote] If it makes you feel better, there are a lot of ppl at lvl 30 that still suck :3 [/quote] That was my point :/[/quote]

[quote=Meiyjhe][quote=Vynertje] But not as bad that they will build IE+PD on Darius. [/quote] Liar [quote=ziagos]That was my point :/[/quote] Well, Vynertjes point was that everyone below 30 is not a good player. Your point was that level 30 ppl can suck too Well well, you both are correct at the same time, what a wonderful world isn't it? :P[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]There's a very big difference between level 30 gameplay and pre-30 gameplay; it doesn't mean that you suck, it just means that you have no experience playing the game against players who know what they're doing. There's a million things that can be done in pre-30 gameplay which you can't do at a decent Elo, but you can't tell because you're not playing against those decent Elo people. This may sound stupid or insulting to you right now, but it's true. I used to build full attack speed [[warwick]] when I was pre-30 and ignored level 30 players' advice that I should build a lot more tanky; I hit 896 Elo at one point because of it. Your build is one of those things that doesn't work post-30. Darius doesn't scale well with attack speed, I'd replace [[berserker's greaves]] with either [[ninja tabi]] or [[mercury's treads]], and [[phantom dancer]] with something tanky. [[frozen mallet]] is a bad item really, but it could work, at least it gives you some form of tankiness. I've personally had some success with [[frozen mallet]] rush on [[darius]], but nowadays I wouldn't build it. [[the bloodthirster]] can be strong if you're ahead, but I think [[ravenous hydra]] may better; but if you're behind, or just not super ahead, don't bother with either of them, continue with tanky items, such as [[sunfire cape]] or [[randuin's omen]]. [[infinity edge]] is only strong coupled with another crit item, but no other crit item is worth it really. You could build something like [[youmuu's ghostblade]] and [[infinity edge]], or [[trinity force]] and [[infinity edge]], but you would have to be REALLY fed for that to work. [[frozen heart]]: You don't have enough HP to make the armor very effective. Better to build something tanky like [[randuin's omen]] and [[sunfire cape]]. You don't need to follow any of this advice right now. Like I said, pre-30 gameplay and level 30 gameplay are 2 entirely different things. Build whatever you find more effective and fun for you right now, but after level 30 if you expect to be placed in a respectable elo you should use some build someone else has recommended you. H4xDefender's Darius guide has a pretty good build, IMO.[/quote]

[quote=oxide110]» Is My Darius Build Any Good? No it's not Listen to Vapora or Vynerjte[/quote]

[quote=tzimitce]hi,i have a few cuestions about your build: -What skill secuence do you use? -Have you ever tried any builds posted here on mobafire? -Can you describe all the masteries you use? -Why dont you try to make a build of your own with the same title and add a link here? Making a guide is a good way to see the reflection of your build in numbers. However, remember to clarify that the guide is a tool to aid this post not an actual "build guide". Also note that in higher lvls and in ranked the "meta" will be different, maybe not allowing duo top (almost sure you will not get to duo top at higher levels :P); it's possible for you to change lanes with the adc to go bot and perform what's usually called "kill lane". some humble advise: -Trinity Force/Infinite Edge with max CDr (40) decimate has 3s CD at lvl 5; making Sheen proc viable on Darius IMO. TF also gives nice all around stats and an ability to stick/run away to/from your enemy (Phage) *TF or IE? well, although Darius scale well with AD, Infinite Edge does not give any kind of surbavility; Trinity does. -Phantom Dancer Okay, normally ADCs build the IE/PD combo, buuuut on darius (even with IE) it does not pays off. AS could be a useful stat to apply max passive stacks faster, but Darius can actually do that easylly without AS with one full combo E+AA+W+Q. -Black Cleaver All stats on BC are awsome on darius and your build does not have any Armor Penetration; it's proved that AR PE gives more damage mid/late game when teams start building armor(duh). Although darius does the 3 kinds of damage (physical,magic,true) his main damage source is physical. Also 10% CD :D -No MR in your build...if you want to keep FH you can build Banshee's Vail, but maybe you should try Randuin's Omen/Spirit Visage too instead of FH/B'sV. -40% CD Darius OP IMO (Black Cleaver+Spirit Visage+Elixir if Brilliance) Hope i've been helpfull with this,GL Sorry for the wall of text :P[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Your build is garbage. The only reason it works for you is because Darius is a noob stomper. I can literally build AP Darius at your level and stomp even harder. Build him with one damage item, Hydra if you're going to split push or Cleaver if you're going to team fight, then build full tank. If you're really fed, opt for a Trinity Force, Last Whisper, or Bloodthirster. Darius' job is to pull in squishies and kill them, then reserving his damage and CC to peel for his teammates. Full AD doesn't work because Darius isn't a burst AD Caster. Hemorrhage takes ~3-4 seconds to fully stack and THEN you get your 700 damage true damage ult to be threatening. Full AD means you don't get to survive 3-4 seconds to stack your passive, which means your ultimate will do ~300 damage or none at all since you're dead.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]You can uh, read my darius guide :D[/quote]