new Hiemerdinger item build

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Vynertje] Hextech sucks, don't bother with it ^^ [/quote] It's a great alternative to WotA for champions like Morde and Vladimir but why one would ever build it on Heimer is a question for the ages.[/quote]

[quote=MyBloodisBlack]Im probably as thick as a retard but can someone explain why spellvamp wouldnt work on [[heimerdinger]] exactly? I mean I find it wierd that heimerdingers turrets do so much damage and their attacks are classed as an ability (does say its magic damage) but spellvamp is useless It boogles the mind[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]Heimerdinger is a backline mage, being a backline mage means that you'll benefit only little from spell vamp. Also, AoE spells only get 1/3rd spellvamp effect.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Vynertje] Heimerdinger is a backline mage, being a backline mage means that you'll benefit only little from spell vamp. Also, AoE spells only get 1/3rd spellvamp effect. [/quote] Any burst/AoE/multi-target mage benefits poorly from spell vamp with the exception of [[Ahri]].[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]i dunno why you got mercs in your build either, you should get the m. pen boots because you dont need tenacity, especially with that build since if you get CC'd at all as hiemer youre as good as dead anyways[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=GrandmasterD] [quote=Vynertje] Heimerdinger is a backline mage, being a backline mage means that you'll benefit only little from spell vamp. Also, AoE spells only get 1/3rd spellvamp effect. [/quote] Any burst/AoE/multi-target mage benefits poorly from spell vamp with the exception of [[Ahri]]. [/quote] I just realized that my explanation was a bit vague. You are right, only mages that benefit from spell vamp are DPS carries like [[cassiopeia]] or [[mordekaiser]].[/quote]

[quote=MyBloodisBlack]Well you will be glad to hear I was wrong again I tried the Hextech gunblade and it didn't do anything whatsoever so its back to tried and tested methods for me :)[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]Getting Spell Vamp is pretty dumb on most mages. Only champ I'd honestly buy it on is Vlad simply because he's a tanky mage who benefits from lane shoving + short cd + low burst. (ionno about morde literally haven't seen him in a few months) Main problem with spell vamp is taht you don't even get the opportunity to spell vamp if you get cc'd or focused, which you will be considering your squishiness. Might as well go full glass cannon to burst enemies down. With spell vamp you're just wasting an item slot.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Vynertje] [quote=GrandmasterD] [quote=Vynertje] Heimerdinger is a backline mage, being a backline mage means that you'll benefit only little from spell vamp. Also, AoE spells only get 1/3rd spellvamp effect. [/quote] Any burst/AoE/multi-target mage benefits poorly from spell vamp with the exception of [[Ahri]]. [/quote] I just realized that my explanation was a bit vague. You are right, only mages that benefit from spell vamp are DPS carries like [[cassiopeia]] or [[mordekaiser]]. [/quote] I personally dislike it on Cassio, but then I heavily play on her range rather than her twin fang.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]I really loved [[spirit of the spectral wraith]] on her when I played her before the nerfs on jungle items. Super cost efficient and good stats[/quote]