new Hiemerdinger item build

[quote=MyBloodisBlack]Ok but I rarely if ever go for the blue buff but I was looking at [[heimerdinger]] skills and notice that he gains a 20% cooldown at level 16 plus the Athene unholy grail giving 20% as well which means 40% cooldown reduction which is apparently the maximum, so I was now wondering if something like [[archangel staff]] might work better?[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][[seraph's embrace]] is a late game item and personally I don't like late game items on him. It definitely works, but since [[heimerdinger]] is mainly an early-mid game champion I personally don't like getting items that do not directly increase his damage output.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Why not get [[Morellonomicon]] instead of [[athene's unholy grail]]? More AP for less gold and heimer doesn't need THAT much mana anymore. His turrets just cost 20 mana. And if you have blue, no need for the mana regeneration anyway. BTW: Liandry's and Rylai's proc on Beam.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]You do need the manareg to spam W.[/quote]

[quote=MyBloodisBlack][quote=NicknameMy] Why not get [[Morellonomicon]] instead of [[athene's unholy grail]]? More AP for less gold and heimer doesn't need THAT much mana anymore. His turrets just cost 20 mana. And if you have blue, no need for the mana regeneration anyway. BTW: Liandry's and Rylai's proc on Beam. [/quote] Because [[Athene's unholy grail]] also provides mana regen and magic resist which is vital in mid lane I am going to have to look up so alternatives for [[Morellonomicon]] and see what I can produce but right now I like the idea of the [[archangel's staff]] because it can give him a boost going into the later games.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]True, but you want the power directly and not delayed, like in [[tear of the goddess]] since heimerdinger isn't a late game oriented champion.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Why play heimer mid? He counters nearly any meele top.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]Because top is a longer lane which means that you're more vulnerable to the enemy jungler.[/quote]

[quote=Khazem][quote=NicknameMy] Why play heimer mid? He counters nearly any meele top. [/quote] ah man it's been a while since i last had the pleasure to read one of these gems thank you based nicknamemy[/quote]

[quote=MyBloodisBlack]I had a look at some more items to replace [[Morellonomicon]] and came up with these...tell me what you think [[Moonflair spellblade]] is a interesting item since it provides more Magic Resist and Armor for better sustainability [[Ohmwrecker]] doesnt provide armor but the health bonus and regens could be useful [[Abyssal Scepter]] seems more offensive but does provide magic Resist[/quote]