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[quote=Vynertje]I wouldn't go as far as saying that, but elise atm is the better jungler. Fiddle could actually be quite good to take that new fourth camp with (single target damage & sustain).[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]True. Plus with the added gold, and the fact that Fiddle can scale harder than Elise... Oh man.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]Now that I come to think of it, [[elise]] could benefit from that new camp as well cause of double Q's dealing %dmg. Well, I'm just practicing all kinds of junglers right now and will narrow them down to fit S4 changes whenever they go live. We'll see what they bring :D[/quote]

[quote=mastrer1000]bestest game ever.throughout the game i sold my ga like 3 times for annother one just to find out that the pasive does not reset. i also sold sv for fh and after that i sold ga for void and still had like 7-8k gold at the end :D [img=http://i.imgur.com/ey9STFu.jpg] edit: because of this game my average kills on ryze are over 20 although i had only one other game with more than 20 kills in my recent games[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][img]http://i.imgur.com/G1SaKOR.png[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/UkRofxD.png[/img] woo new main But seriously Lucian is a lot better than I thought.[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex][quote=Luther3000] woo new main But seriously Lucian is a lot better than I thought. [/quote] inb4 instablown by [[Zed]]s or [[Kha'Zix]]s.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Soo...just like every other AD carry in the game then? :P[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex]Definitely not [[Caitlyn]][/quote]

[quote=EdisonKhoo][quote=mastrer1000] bestest game ever.throughout the game i sold my ga like 3 times for annother one just to find out that the pasive does not reset. i also sold sv for fh and after that i sold ga for void and still had like 7-8k gold at the end :D [img=http://i.imgur.com/ey9STFu.jpg] edit: because of this game my average kills on ryze are over 20 although i had only one other game with more than 20 kills in my recent games [/quote] Far more different than your guide xDDDDD[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]Holy fuck those builds. There's gotta be normal ELO hell.[/quote]