7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=Cooper112]Yup also kha is top jungle right now i been watching odd one stream and few other jungles they all say hes god jungle then lee sin 2nd. Tier 1: KHA, Lee sin, Pantheon, Wukong, Vi At least my opnion and watching some streams and other junglers thoughts. Elise got hit very hard prob tier 2 she clear really badly now and alot worse early only 1 sec stun.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]Updated.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112]Annie is better than morg even after nerfs?[/quote]

[quote=BlueArtist]Annie should be moved down 1 tier or so, and up in mid lane. The recent changes points towards this direction.[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]Even support [[Annie]] is supposed to build some AP and make use of the higher scaling of her abilities. Sure, her overall damage may have gone down a bit because of the base damage nerfs, but I don't think there's any reason to move her down a tier (yet).[/quote]

[quote=XeresAce]How does soraka mid lane work? o3o (just asking cause I personally haven't seen many people play her mid)[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh][quote=Wayne3100] Even support [[Annie]] is supposed to build some AP and make use of the higher scaling of her abilities. Sure, her overall damage may have gone down a bit because of the base damage nerfs, but I don't think there's any reason to move her down a tier (yet). [/quote] She still hurts a lot with early game poke and her skills don't actually NEED to do a lot of damage, that was just overboard. A support that can 1v1 the ADC and win: balance. So she is still going strong. [[soraka]] works in a very peculiar way: she gets to a point where she never dies and shreds the enemy that sticks around too long trying to take her down. The damage she does will surprise you. Basically build tanky, some AP, spam laugh and Q in whatever order you prefer. Play safe, throw bananas, care for mana, spam Q, heal. She's better top lane.[/quote]

[quote=Scott Azrael]Listening to Nightblue and caught a few things that surprised me. He thought [[Jax]] and [[Irelia]] were both underrated. He said [[Irelia]] is better than most think right now and that [[Jax]] is possibly the second strongest top behind [[Renekton]] who needs to be nerfed. [[Diana]] is horrible mid and actually much better as a jungler. [[Nautilus]] with more of a buff to his shield(W) and attack speed would be viable in this meta because he is so good against assassins. [[Vi]] nerfs not that bad especially if you are building the CDR build on Vi with Elder Lizard + Brutalizer [[Elise]] nerfs not that bad. She lost damage but gained more utility with E being up more often. The worst thing is just that she lost objective control with Q nerf. [[Kassadin]] now worthless. Don't bother playing right now. He just is too weak in laning phase and takes too long to recover compared to how he was. [[Aatrox]] is trash late game because it is just too easy to be kited. He is ok early game and great mid game. Sadly, I experienced this when I played him the other day.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=Scott Azrael] Listening to Nightblue and caught a few things that surprised me. He thought [[Jax]] and [[Irelia]] were both underrated. He said [[Irelia]] is better than most think right now and that [[Jax]] is possibly the second strongest top behind [[Renekton]] who needs to be nerfed. [[Diana]] is horrible mid and actually much better as a jungler. [[Nautilus]] with more of a buff to his shield(W) and attack speed would be viable in this meta because he is so good against assassins. [[Vi]] nerfs not that bad especially if you are building the CDR build on Vi with Elder Lizard + Brutalizer [[Elise]] nerfs not that bad. She lost damage but gained more utility with E being up more often. The worst thing is just that she lost objective control with Q nerf. [[Kassadin]] now worthless. Don't bother playing right now. He just is too weak in laning phase and takes too long to recover compared to how he was. [[Aatrox]] is trash late game because it is just too easy to be kited. He is ok early game and great mid game. Sadly, I experienced this when I played him the other day. [/quote] aatrox is a good champ just not in jungle he works better top lane hes fine. Also its been known for long time that Irelia is really good now its no secret that nightblue just found out its been know for 2-3 weeks.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=Wayne3100] Even support [[Annie]] is supposed to build some AP and make use of the higher scaling of her abilities. Sure, her overall damage may have gone down a bit because of the base damage nerfs, but I don't think there's any reason to move her down a tier (yet). [/quote] annie support wont get decent ap items till 30-40 minutes and even than its going be tops Rylai's Crystal Scepter,Frost Queen's Claim and Liandry's Torment. Its strait nerf i dont think shes good especially against a morg who she wont be able burst though her e any more.[/quote]