We Will Deathfire Grasp You!?

[quote=Xaioli]Hello everyone on the Theorycrafting board! I know I usually don't post a lot on here with constructive comments, but I'd like to know if you guys could assist me with something. Could you guys debate/discuss about a 5 [icon=Deathfire Grasp]Deathfire Grasp team. So the item does 30% of the target's current health but 3.5% per 100 Ability Power. The minimum amt of damage this will do is 200. So let's say everyone on one team gets ONE DFG and they engage in a team fight, and that team targets one person on the enemy team to be focused by 5 Deathfire Grasps. Will that one person be dead? Be so low that they will fall over by a breath? From the numbers and facts, it sounds like a tank, healer, carry, anyone would fall over in that situation. Thanks![/quote]

[quote=Searz]Nope, it's % of current HP. 5*DFG will not be able to kill anyone without other sources of damage. A quick calc: 1800*0.7^3-400=217.4 and that's without magic resist. You'll probably not deal more than 60% of the total hp. This setup can also be hard countered with MR..[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995][quote=Xaioli] Hello everyone on the Theorycrafting board! I know I usually don't post a lot on here [/quote] Wait, yeah you do! [quote=Xaioli] with constructive comments[/quote] Oh... ok, carry on. But aanyways... That seems pretty inefficient, why not just all target separate people? You'll get the maximum amount of damage out of it that way.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]True - but that would make DFG lackluster if you're using it on different targets and not to spike one person down. But as Searz said, 5 DFGs would be horribly inefficient on one target. Tbh, 1 person taking DFG and everyone having a Hextech Gunblade would have more damage - it'd just be extremely hard to coordinate. Not to mention that MR hard counters it.[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]This setup will require a heavy AP team, so magic resist tank would be realy glad to help you with painfull death. 1-2 DGF shots on teamfights on 2 diferent ppl can be devastating in terms of winning a teamfight. It is kind of "anti tank" item but tbh it works best on medium/high hp casters/carries that dont stack MR, this item is quite useless on High HP and MR tanks anyway. If that target who you want to 5x DFG has 1000HP and 0 res it will kill him :P[/quote]

[quote=Kibblinator]^I agree that magic resist tanks would stomp the team, because an all DFG team means a heavy shift on magic and also an imbalance on the builds dor AD carries and even the own teams tanks. When it comes to assassinating squishies deathfire is not so useful so you would almost be better off having your AD carries and tanks building their own items. However, that doesnt stop DFG being amazing on 1-2 people to help against tanks that DONT build MR due to your own team being balanced. More interesting, I think, is a full banshees team :). THAT would be epic :D[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]full banshees? i've seen it go bothways with a whopping 10 banshees. yes everyone had one. but when we have double teemo along with some heavy cc it would be suicide to not get either of them.[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]Well 5 banshee teams are pretty common when i play Karthus for fast win or to boost my friend lvling rate :) I dont have to say that it doesnt work?[/quote]