OTG's SoloQ Tier List (Patch 4.20)

[quote=HiFromBuddha]Not to mention it's easily cancelled. I believe simply taking damage will cancel the channel.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=HiFromBuddha]Not to mention it's easily cancelled. I believe simply taking damage will cancel the channel.[/quote] Nope, only CC.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]virtually instant global travel is gamebreaking regardless if you have to place something there. It will likely get nerfed[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]It's basically rteleport with a few gimmicks. Also if someone tries to destroy one of your tunnels and you have one available to be placed you can go and kill them while they do.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112]Tf needs be added i wont every try it but it must be pretty good to work on number one seed in na. Its high af skill cap to play.[/quote]

[quote=Savlonic]Still baffled that UoL made TF jungle work against TSM. Goes to show how strong devourer is right now, those nerfs can't come soon enough. Anyways yeah I anticipate at least a base CD increase to [[Rek'sai]]'s ult or duration/amount placed reduce to Tunnels.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]Devourer is pretty overrated imo, but it probably does need nerfs. The main thing is the initial clear time. [[Twisted Fate]] got through the initial jungle run with pretty much full health and even had a successful gank early on. I don't really think that means TF jungle is that great, it just means TSM got shit on. I played jungle TF last night, and it's certainly pretty decent, but you pretty much need to kite the mobs so you don't take damage, you cannot get through an initial clear without taking a ton of damage. I think [[ranger's trailblazer]] needs a nerf before devourer, or the other jungle items need to be buffed. I'd prefer the latter personally[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=Mooninites]Devourer is pretty overrated imo, but it probably does need nerfs. The main thing is the initial clear time. [[Twisted Fate]] got through the initial jungle run with pretty much full health and even had a successful gank early on. I don't really think that means TF jungle is that great, it just means TSM got shit on. I played jungle TF last night, and it's certainly pretty decent, but you pretty much need to kite the mobs so you don't take damage, you cannot get through an initial clear without taking a ton of damage. I think [[ranger's trailblazer]] needs a nerf before devourer, or the other jungle items need to be buffed. I'd prefer the latter personally[/quote] They're already removing the smite CD reduction from trailblazer and lowering the base magic damage of devourer. Also, remember when I said professional players using anything is not a good example of how something would work in soloq? Well, that holds even more true for jungle TF.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=Mooninites]Devourer is pretty overrated imo, but it probably does need nerfs. The main thing is the initial clear time. [[Twisted Fate]] got through the initial jungle run with pretty much full health and even had a successful gank early on. I don't really think that means TF jungle is that great, it just means TSM got shit on. I played jungle TF last night, and it's certainly pretty decent, but you pretty much need to kite the mobs so you don't take damage, you cannot get through an initial clear without taking a ton of damage. I think [[ranger's trailblazer]] needs a nerf before devourer, or the other jungle items need to be buffed. I'd prefer the latter personally[/quote]So what your saying you tried to kite but your not as good as lcs jungler at it so its not good? What did i just say its good jungler but it takes alot skill.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=Mooninites]Devourer is pretty overrated imo, but it probably does need nerfs. The main thing is the initial clear time. [[Twisted Fate]] got through the initial jungle run with pretty much full health and even had a successful gank early on. I don't really think that means TF jungle is that great, it just means TSM got shit on. I played jungle TF last night, and it's certainly pretty decent, but you pretty much need to kite the mobs so you don't take damage, you cannot get through an initial clear without taking a ton of damage. I think [[ranger's trailblazer]] needs a nerf before devourer, or the other jungle items need to be buffed. I'd prefer the latter personally[/quote] They're already removing the smite CD reduction from trailblazer and lowering the base magic damage of devourer. Also, remember when I said professional players using anything is not a good example of how something would work in soloq? Well, that holds even more true for jungle TF.[/quote] 2 things, this is a soloqueue tier list, so obviously this is entirely based on solo queue or maybe you don't even know what thread you've made at this point The second, are you honestly suggesting that jungle TF would be better in competitive play than solo queue? I highly doubt that's true, it's a cheese pick, cheese picks work much better in solo queue than competitive play, unless you're playing TSM because they don't know how to play anything but standard, which was why it worked [quote=Cooper112] So what your saying you tried to kite but your not as good as lcs jungler at it so its not good? What did i just say its good jungler but it takes alot skill. [/quote] There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that I cannot play jungle TF as well as a pro player, but that doesn't mean it's a good pick. I would really hesitate to call it a good jungle, it works and it's not terrible. But is it going to compete with tier 1 or even tier 2 jungle picks, probably not Are you honestly suggesting that j[/quote]