Nothing.

But that's perfectly fine.

Why? Because there is no gain in trying to help either. Just reading his responses should be explanation enough.



You see that little yellow line down there? That is called an "Event Horizon". It's the point of no return in a black hole. Once you reach there, the only way to escape is either magic or protoss tech.

Now, lets adapt this for guides. Everything above the yellow line is awesome to acceptably redeemable.

Guess where this guide lies.

Hahaha,sorry it's just my way to start off nicely. Meh,if you know yourself you're a good player it shouldn't matter what they say. Just take the advice from the people who give it to you,and ignore the ones who like to be an *******. Btw,you're welcome. Just go back to the drawing board. :D Good luck <3

P.S. If all else fails,just use this:



JK. JK. JK.




Don't take this as an attack Lagger,honestly you make me laugh when I see you around on Moba,but what is there to gain from being a ****?

You do realize that we are heavily babysitting you, which is not really a good thing - right?

This guide kinda haves too much colors, even for me a color-fan. D:

Oh but we do mean to tell you that you are bad. Yes you. Not your guide. You.

'Here's a good way to improve' has not come up? So I basically wasted my effort teaching you how to be a better player - by using flat AD and armor runes - and you just cheerfully ignored it all.

We're not here to sugar coat every reply so that newbs don't get butthurt. Some of us do, but we are not obliged to. Bitter medicine? Take it or leave it. You want to improve or you don't want to improve, the choice is yours. Because you ain't giving nobody no advice on how to play Xin, seeing what a horribly ***** player you are.

That's because you are? Which is also a basis as to why your guide is bad? Which is also something you should consider?



Get over yourself. We aren't here to hold your hands. We don't care who you are. Your guide is bad and you are a bad player, which is also a reason why your guide is bad. The sooner you admit it, the sooner you can begin to improve.



That's because you're not ****ing listening?



That's because you're not ****ing listening? Yes, I had to say it twice. Because, hey, guess what? You're not ****ing listening. If that's your continued attitude, I recommend you stop writing guides. How about I list the things that HAVE come up, hm?

1) Long Sword start < Hunter's Machete start
2) Runes.
3) Masteries
4) Coding
5) Skill Order
6) Multiple other items, but cba

And all these broadly come under the banner of 'Everything'. That's what you got wrong (and we have mentioned, btw).

The second post in this thread has a list, Vynertje made a list, Lagger showed you the maths (which seems to have flown over your head) and now I've made a list. Now take your head out your *** and start listening?

I'll chime in. Take this down please. Thats at least two. Also for most of the people here. Its beginning to get trollsy. You are wasting your time speaking to a deaf man. Im halfway convinced he is just arguing to get responses.

No reason to get static shiv or nashors tooth, and scaling ad runes are horrible for him since you want to take advantage of his extremely high damage early game

Thank you Tiny, FIrst one since Vy that seems decent. I know they aren't trying to be mean, but its gone from telling me my build is bad to telling me I'm bad at the game. That's why it seems like a personal attack. I'll redo/make a new guide, but the one sided arguments aren't giving me much to work with. "Heres a good way to improve" doesn't seem to have come up. By the way....ehhhhh please don't call me hun. Thanks for the real criticism Tiny and Vy.

Hun,people aren't saying these things to be mean. Well, maybe one >.> (:P),but take what they have to say and build on it. Trust me, they are saving it out of love and want you to do well. I know it can be hard to hear things about how you play or build items, but really take in what they have to say. I do agree about the scaling vs flat. I did the same thing,trust me. I have a MF guide for TT that I'm still trying to fix,and I've put months into that guide. Just take this down and redo it with something new. Never hurts to try (:

Currently this guide is the number 5 on the worst-guides-that-are-not-archived-yet-list, that is not because people simply disagree with you, that is because what you've written here is just bad. I think you should deeply reconsider everything you've written here. Don't say stuff like 'it works for me', because thats just ********.

Go have a look at what most of us have to say, and check out YoDaTV's xin guide, he's a really good player and just use his build, and simply have a look at the difference it will bring into your gameplay. And please, play ranked with these builds and see the effects. Normal games cannot be taken seriously at all in my opinion, because only very little players take it any seriously.

Currently, you have 10 downvotes, mainly coming from people who have been on mobafire for a long time and who are really experienced in giving reviews. Along these, I am a gold 2 player and that puts me two full tiers above you. Now that doesn't make me an authority when concerning builds, but arguing with me and 9 others as bronze 2 is just ignorant.

So, what I'd recommend you to do is the following:
1. Reconsider your build and see what others have to offer. Perhaps ask pro players on their streams (EG players are always responding to questions, some other players might too) on their opinions and reasoning behind stuff.
2. Jump into ranked, play like 50 games with xin while developing your own way, but start with something completely different than this build
3. Read some guides on how to make a guide
4. Put some days, perhaps weeks work into your guide, try and get some artwork from the forums
5. Publish
6. ...?
7. Profit - I upvote nearly all guides instantly when I see that the author has put lot of work in it (as long as its not too flawed), and I think this goes for a lot of the people out here on mobafire.

You’ve got an interesting point here : yes, the top Xin build says he has "No Escape," ; no, I haven’t said anything there. Why? Because there is a subtle difference between saying “No escape”, which is debatable, and claiming “Only escape tool is his ultimate”, which is pretty wrong.

“You're about to have a lesson from one of the best theorycrafters on MOBAFire, so listen up and listen good.” Mental masturbation at its best. Was this really necessary?