I found starting with pots and boots didnt cut it for me, not having hte extra 80 hp :/

^ that

I am sorry though dude, I didn't realize he thought I was you. I guess it's my fault he downvoted :/ my bad.

The first thing I state in the introduction is that it's directed to duo laning and solo top. I am just not interested in these items, I am not working on improving a jungling guide or build so please, down vote this for not being "a jungling guide/build" if you want to, which would be stupid, but that was not my intention from the start to make.

hmmm...ohk. First thing is what I believe is a misunderstanding. It is CakeFirst that has made this build, I understand the confusion cause of cake being in our names :P

I understand those two items are great for hecarim, but I do not use them and if I do it ends up being very late game when I have more then enough money to buy them. That's why I consider gp items useless while I'm playing hec. Others though would find it useful depending on there build.

Now, the guy is the top jungler yes, but I don't understand that relevance because I do not jungle with hecarim therefore our opinions are totally different.

I disagree, the item build cakefirst has given is very useful. What you would be looking at is a jungle build, which has not been put up.

Ok I will let here this link to colbycheeze's first impressions about Hecarim. Video is here. Maybe he can convince you about what I just said.

Blaming gp5 items for being useless just makes e more sure that you really dont know about what u are talking.

Heart of Gold = upgrades into Randuin's Omen

philosopher's stone = upgrades into Shurelya's Battlesong

Both are GREAT items for Hecarim if you just wasted a couple minutes to read his status and skills and have at least a bit of common sense you should've noticed that.

Moreover, it is not about TheOddOne being famous, it is why he is. He is just the best jungler in the game. If you ignore what he says about Hecarim, it's like ignoring Albert Einstein's advice when talking about physics.

I was holding back my vote until you improved your guide making use of more time, as the Champion was just released and data is still being collected about him, but it seems you are pretty sure of what you've written here from the top of your 100 games with him. So I will feel free to downvote your guide, because IMO it is the wrong way to play/build Hecarim.

However I wish you the best of luck.

So you give me no reason not to, just go on about the meta. Duo laning is a perfectly viable strategy for hecarium.

Just because someone recommends it, doesn't make it viable. It doesn't matter how good they are or whatever. It can be useful, yes, but not enough to spend you're money on. gp items are based on long term money making, and if you play hec right, once you make it into the later game then you will be earning more then enough money to render those gp items useless.

As a long as you duo lane a jungler completely ignoring the meta, I can just believe I wasted my time trying to give you some advice.. .Well Whatever...

And about the gp5 items, trying to argue against TheOddOne recomendations. It's just the proof that you don't know much about what you are talking xD

Let it be. Good luck with the guide bro :)

@ Boitata

I disagree so much with the hec laning. Compared to others, hec is terrible at jungling early game. Once you get in later game, you can do it like I do to op him. Duo laning partners are the best for hec, specially once he gets his ult. Where in the world do you get a different idea?

Devastating Charge is not your main damage unless you're playing him wrong. I used to think the same thing, but if you grab heal and ghost they overextend a lot thinking you're about to die. Which allows you to use continuous rampage seeing as it has a 1 sec cooldown after three attacks and ghost nearly doubles it's power. Then you use your ult to stop the other guy from running away.

Phantom dancer is perfect for hec. it has alrady been elaborated why so I won't go into detail. The rest I'm not gonna mention on, it's up to cakefirst to look at that BUT the gold gathering ones for the start of the game is wrong. Hec does not need them, trust me.

Sources: My hundreds of games with him.

Now now... Your guide is the most voted so it got some attention. Therefore, you should get more downvotes than you wanted. Its the down side of posting a guide for a new champion that early. Life isn't very fair, i guess lol.

Now, about your guide. I don't got why you have a special section to tell us what lane partners can do good with Hecarim. Hecarim is not to duo lane with anyone. If duo laning, your partner won't benefit of any of your skills, and it is harder than never to apply Devastating Charge's knock back properly. Hecarim is a jungler, and in the lack of better replacement, solo top (even if solo top with him can be a major waste of his potential).

Devastating Charge is your MAIN way to deal damage. Don't believe everything that Phreak says in the spotlights lol. Rampage is only good to trigger Sheen's proc, and that you can do with only level one, as the cooldown/mana cost won't decrease/increase with leveling. In the other hand, Devastating Charge gains major damage as it levels up, and the cooldown is reduced as well and the mana cost remains the same. Makes you more likely to survive ganks/counter-jungle AND applies Sheen proc (not confirmed).

Of your builds, the first one is pretty standard, works for the most of the bruisers, from A to Z. The second one is almost near of what I consider optimal, only that I don't like Phantom Dancer in anyone but people that really relly on auto-attacking/critical hits to deal damage. That is not for Hecarim. And about Bloodthirster, Hecarim doesn't need it either. He doesn't even need Wriggle's Lantern for jungling. His W is enough to sustain him. I'd replace Phantom Dancer, Bloodthirster and Frozen Heart for Shurelya's Battlesong, Randuin's Omen and Youmuu's Ghostblade. If you can start up with philosopher's stone and Heart of Gold, that will make your money going and going, as well as will provide some needed survivability. However, having 3 active items in the end of the game can be tricky, but i dont find that a major problem.

I hope I made myself useful to improve your guide.

Keep up the good work :D

Why leave Devastating Charge for last, the laning phase ends around lvl 9 - lvl 12. I also would recommend using Greater Quint of Strength for more damage in early game.

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Very good guide for a first one. Used coding, good spelling (very few mistakes) and good info and tips. Impressed. (y)

-1 from me :S