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note that brut is good against low armor, not against armor stackers. it's generally a decent purchase on jayce as you just want to stack arpen, but if enemies are stacking armor early you want an early LW, not brut.
there's also no point in getting randuins, and bt is definitely not a defensive item.
muramana + lw + cleaver are core on jayce imo after that you're probably going to get BT / IE.
you can also fit in a hexdrinker early on to fill out the last item slot if ur against high kill pressure ap champs or get mercurial later.
Thanks embracing! I seem to always miss the bit about Bruta every time I go to edit this guide. Will fix for sure this time.
As for the other points; Randuin's is mostly there to fill out the cheat sheet and keep the number of items even for each field. I agree it often won't be needed, but sometimes it's a decent pick up (especially if you are forced to be tankier due to an excessively squishy team, as I was yesterday).
BT being "defensive" is again just to keep the item fields even. The shield does at least help you survive, so in that aspect, I'm not entirely wrong to call it as such.
Again, thank you for the advice. :]
there's also no point in getting randuins, and bt is definitely not a defensive item.
muramana + lw + cleaver are core on jayce imo after that you're probably going to get BT / IE.
you can also fit in a hexdrinker early on to fill out the last item slot if ur against high kill pressure ap champs or get mercurial later.
Please help me out and point out if anything else seems wrong or outdated! Thanks.
Edit: Remember that I write these guides to learn about the champion myself, so anything you think I'm missing, please let me know!
It's that it's in no way, shape or form better than
You have a mighty fine point there. I should update the main build to reflect that. When I made the guide, Korean players WERE running reaver quite a bit on him, so thats why it's in the core build, but BT has been buffed since then, I think.
1. I disagree entirely about
It's that it's in no way, shape or form better than
okay, here goes:
essence reaver is a complete piece of **** of an item and should never be built. zed-jayce matchup is not in jayce's favour and his build flexibility is fine considering you haven't even mentioned items like triforce and botrk which I guess is understandable because they are highly situational. also I couldn't really tell if that bunch of text about laning was about early levels or past lvl 9 but I just hope it wasn't for early levels because doing things like autoing every time enemy laner is in range while standing in the middle of his minion wave and using all of your kit to harass is not very smart 8)
1. I disagree entirely about
2. Didn't mention those cause they are too expensive how for how little they synergize with his kit.
3. A lot of that needs rewritten to reflect mid lane, my bad. This used to be a top lane gide, probably overlooked that in the rewriting process.
4. I've never personally had an issue with
Thank you for the critique though, sorry for the late response.
essence reaver is a complete piece of **** of an item and should never be built. zed-jayce matchup is not in jayce's favour and his build flexibility is fine considering you haven't even mentioned items like triforce and botrk which I guess is understandable because they are highly situational. also I couldn't really tell if that bunch of text about laning was about early levels or past lvl 9 but I just hope it wasn't for early levels because doing things like autoing every time enemy laner is in range while standing in the middle of his minion wave and using all of your kit to harass is not very smart 8)
Hey just wanted to drop a couple of things:
- Your use of columns (or tables?) is slightly screwed up at the skilling section. I recommend you end the column/table there and start a new one for Itemization.
- I get
Not much point in getting that. You're not a tank and armor isnt that amazing without health to back it up. CDR can come from more offensive options.
- Your use of columns (or tables?) is slightly screwed up at the skilling section. I recommend you end the column/table there and start a new one for Itemization.
- I get
That almost never happens at mid lane. And even then, you normally use hammer E for the disengage instead of the damage. Cannon E has a static cooldown, so it's not really wurf.
Oh...I play him top a lot. But even for top not wurf?