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Nocturne Guide
Nocturne - "The Fist of Shadow" (issues-CHECK NEW)
Best build yet! But i think you forget to get improved smite... :P
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Thanks :)
However, please check out my renewed build of this one updated with another smarter jungle route, images and icons! Also vote on that one instead of this, as soon as the voting feature becomes available! Link below (signature text)
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Interesting, I didn't see any changes. Did you press the "Publish" button?
Everything should have been changed to as it should be now, on the new build I made (renewed version of this one) Check the link above this comment, or at my signature! Sorry for the trouble :)
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/nocturne-the-fist-of-shadow-renewed-65965
Interesting, I didn't see any changes. Did you press the "Publish" button?
Hmm. Why yes I did.. I swapped places on the Bloodthirster and Infinity Edge, changed 2 points in the masteries, updated the jungle route image (re-designed it) and also the jungle route description itself.
Here's the image I see under the jungle section - http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5300/junglepath.jpg
Maybe you've overlooked the changes? Otherwise I dunno :o Maybe somehow isn't updated for you?
Build Fixed. Other suggestions are warmly welcome!
Interesting, I didn't see any changes. Did you press the "Publish" button?
By far the best jungle Nocturne guide on the site. I would know, since I've seen all the other ones. :P
Normally, I would give this a recommendation, but there are a few fixes I'd like to suggest.
I see you level up your W first because Phreak did in his video. However, it actually speeds up your jungle time substantially if you start with Q first instead of your W. QWQE is the optimal starting order. If you don't believe me, see Stonewall's vids on Youtube.
You also run a full 0/21/9 defense tree. You don't need to. Really, you should be aiming for at least 10 in Utility, to secure 30% increased buff duration. Getting improved Smite in the offense tree is optional, but not necessary. I find that the best tree is either 1/16/13 or 1/19/10, depending on what you prefer. What is most important is the 30% increased buff duration in Utility Mastery.
Finally, I would recommend getting your Infinity Edge before your Bloodthirster.
Other than that, well done. If you make some changes, this will get a recommendation from me.
EDIT: One more thing I forgot to mention: It's actually better to recall before red buff and then kill it later. That way you don't lose time on your buff. For a route, after you do small golems the second time, I would recommend clearing Wraiths and Wolves again, then recalling, buying items, possibly a mana potion, doing Red, and ganking.
Thanks a bunch for your comment! I can clearly see that you have a good point of changes, and I agree to them. I'll fix them into the build asap! I will also try the Jungle advice on taking Q before W. Glad you liked the rest of the build!
Normally, I would give this a recommendation, but there are a few fixes I'd like to suggest.
I see you level up your W first because Phreak did in his video. However, it actually speeds up your jungle time substantially if you start with Q first instead of your W. QWQE is the optimal starting order. If you don't believe me, see Stonewall's vids on Youtube.
You also run a full 0/21/9 defense tree. You don't need to. Really, you should be aiming for at least 10 in Utility, to secure 30% increased buff duration. Getting improved Smite in the offense tree is optional, but not necessary. I find that the best tree is either 1/16/13 or 1/19/10, depending on what you prefer. What is most important is the 30% increased buff duration in Utility Mastery.
Finally, I would recommend getting your Infinity Edge before your Bloodthirster.
Other than that, well done. If you make some changes, this will get a recommendation from me.
EDIT: One more thing I forgot to mention: It's actually better to recall before red buff and then kill it later. That way you don't lose time on your buff. For a route, after you do small golems the second time, I would recommend clearing Wraiths and Wolves again, then recalling, buying items, possibly a mana potion, doing Red, and ganking.
Thanks alot for commenting!
I thought of that as well, however I decided to still get the full Madred's before building Ghostblade. However, imo, Nocturne needs the permanent added attack speed from the Recurve Bow more than the Ghostblade's use: effect. I don't really think it would be much of a difference in swapping the purchase order of them either. I mean, once you have Recurve Bow, there's not a lot of gold to fill in the gap for a full Madred's.
Voting for this build isn't enabled yet, however it will be in a couple of days at max :)
Mmmn, this is true. I also think it's more situational. I was just in a game where they had a Malphite who got Warmogs right off the bat. And combined with his passive, was pretty bulky. So I ended up using your build for the most part. But the way I see it is that if you're already doing well, say maybe 3-4 kills, no or 1 death, and a few ***its, rush the Ghostblade because of it's armor pen and atkspeed buff. Combined with the passive for his W, that's almost 2 Attack per second. Which... Will basically down anyone. But I'm doing as well, I usually combine the two builds. Get the razor, brutalizer, recurve, Avarice blade, the 975g weapon, then finish the two items off around the same time. But yeah, either way is really affective. I'm just glad I don't see someone stacking Phantom Dancers. Haha
I actually just made this account to comment on this build.
First off, I love it. I use the same exact jungling path as well. The only thing we differ on is masteries, build, and runes. The runes though aren't that big of a deal since we both have ArmR pen, which is the best for a melee champ.
One thing I have to ask, though, is this. Wouldn't it be better to just keep the Razor until you got the ghostblade? The pace of speed I play around doesn't have many champs with astounding amounts of health to make a bloodrazor as important as it is later on. It may give a bit of a boost to damage, but not a lot. You can still solo/2v1 a tank down easily enough with skills and red buff just fine early/mid game.
Asides from that, +1... if I can figure out how to vote.
Thanks alot for commenting!
I thought of that as well, however I decided to still get the full Madred's before building Ghostblade. However, imo, Nocturne needs the permanent added attack speed from the Recurve Bow more than the Ghostblade's use: effect. I don't really think it would be much of a difference in swapping the purchase order of them either. I mean, once you have Recurve Bow, there's not a lot of gold to fill in the gap for a full Madred's.
Voting for this build isn't enabled yet, however it will be in a couple of days at max :)