The thing with atma's and warmog's is that they aren't ideal for Shyvana, on the offensive side. Rush atmog's, and sure, you'll be very tanky from all the stacks on warmog's, but you won't deal nearly as much damage. She needs so much attack speed, not flat AD and crit which is all that atmog's provides. Flat AD is good, but not ideal.

Well in my opinion its not just the fact that it is a expensive build. I see a problem of building the Madreds and the Trinity force in that order. Since it´ll mostly take a while until you have those and you wont get the time finishing your Atmas + Warmog´s combo. Also your warmogs properly wont have all the time stacks on the health either that way.

I have life steal (until late game) with the lantern, only replacing it with atma's as a last item. Madred's Bloodrazor gives you 25 armor which isn't bad, considering it's a incredibly powerful damage item. Sure, in a 1on1 fight you might not have as much healing as your opponent, but it means Ignite can't shut you down and you have a much more resilient champion against burst ad such as Talon or Graves.

I only lose the lantern during the final moments of the game. Even then, I may choose to keep it for the free ward and the lifesteal for healing after a fight. Games rarely last this long due to the expensive nature of my build. Speaking of which, why is an expensive build bad? It means that late game, instead of money being wasted by farming and spent only on elixirs, I am actually working towards bigger and better items.

He does have life steal with the lantern but I do agree that it´s a bit expensive.

You cannot build a champion that has really high ATS without adding life-steal into the mix, even if it's an off-tank. Life-steal helps you get more survivability and often can be the difference between victory and defeat. I recommend Zeke's Harbinger instead of Madred's Bloodrazor. I know the power that thing can give you, especially when fighting things like Dr. Mundo or Olaf, but it won't do squat for your survivability. Plus, a build with both Trinity Force and Madred's Bloodrazor is simply too expensive.

Don´t mind him he just randomly down votes new guides so his shyvanna guide has better chances to be in the top 10.

Over then that very nice guide and very detailed me gusta!

Very nice, one of the ,more comprehensive guides for Shyvana

Amazing....truly and undeniably one of the best LoL guides i have ever read. Thank Mr Fail for making this ;)

I don't mention either armor/level seals OR flat AP runes. Don't know where you got that from.



Point taken, I'll change that.



Because of this comment it leads me to believe you don't understand the mechanics of Shyvana yourself! Please reread Fury of the Dragonborn - 15% of the ability's damage is dealt to a debuffed target. What does this mean? Every time I autoattack, Flame Breath deals more damage. If I have attack speed items, I can proc this more. THEREFORE, Flame Breath scales with attack speed as well as ability power.

Overall, I think you've misread my guide or confused it with another 2 or 3 times. I beg you to reconsider your vote, sir :)

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nice guide, however, you should note that you mentioned flat AP runes in your rune sectioo, however you have shown armour/level seals. you may wish to correct that.
also, you mentioned that attack speed increases the duration of burnout, however, this is a common misconception, even 0.5 AS is sufficient to extend burnout to its maximum duration, perhaps you could say you can reach burnouts duration cap more swiftly?
also, you indicated that it increases the damage of flame breath, another, less common, misconception. this leads me to believe you do not totally understand the mechanics of Shyvana, and it is for this reason that i have chosen to down vote your guide.

Item purchases are some of the best I've seen for this champ