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Keep an eye on the enemy team composition and items to decide whether to build to solo-kill people with burst damage or provide more utility for your team to take them down. Pick up
Okay onto Rylai's. The buff in 8.4 certainly helps, but I actually had this item in the cheatsheet before that.
These changes aside, the main reason I shifted my build focus on Elise slightly away from burst towards this Rylai's+Liandry's combo is because I feel she simply falls off too quickly compared to other junglers in terms of pure damage and kill potential. Rylai's+Liandry's scales better because it offers a mix of utility (you can constantly slow people) and scaling damage (%hp damage is good throughout the game).
You can still have a really strong early game and get solo kills, but once teams start grouping, I feel this build is the most effective at contributing reliably in team fights. Without Liandry's, you're much more reliant on just your stun from
You could probably still build
I'll still be playtesting the 8.4 changes (and future changes) and you'll probably see a few things change to my guides in the future, especially my Elise and Evelynn guides. For now, this is what I feel works best. Hope that helps.
do you think
Super management of a complicate kit to explain with the 2 forms.
<3 the jungle chapters.
Keep the amazing work.
If you want
I definitely did underestimate the item overall though. It's pretty nice if you don't desperately need
Thanks for the question/suggestion! :)