lol get trolled bro i didn't downvote

Omg, are you serious? Vladimir even have mana... I play a lot of other champs like brand, lux. Yea they need doran's, and vladimir don't, cuz it's that necessary. I rather having boots.

I see. And Void, since the beggining was on the build, as an alternative that i called "for tankies" tankies I didn't want to say tanks, but someone with magic resist.
Normally I get a void when a team fight is close, i have 4 items done, and only money for void. Then I choose it first.

Obviously almost everyone gets a banshee... But you have to consider, it has an aura(-20), it has damage (70) and it has magic resist (57), you can't forget that. You have a lot of HP and a defense will power you up...

Unless the enemy team are complete ******s, or you're just playing normals, they will have far more than 40MR. This is when the mitigation factor comes in. More often than not, everybody buys a Banshee's Veil or a Force of Nature to counter AP's. That's 50 & 76(8?) MR respectively. I get that it has an aura, and that's why it's best left for tanks/supports. You need the penetration as an individual so you can maximize what you do. There's been far too many games where the opposing team stacks MR, and our caster refuses to get a Void Staff because they don't think they need it. I'm hoping you're not one of those people.

All I'm sayin is that you might want to discuss it as an alternative in your guide for purchases, it gets more work done in certain scenarios.

people often get dorans ring for sustainability because it gives good mana regen. Stacking Doran's ring helps casters like Brand allow use of skills more often. Unlike Vladimir, he doesnt use mana and only the HP and ap benefits him, which can be easily replaced through other items. He already has great sustainability, and the Vlad equivalent of stacking doran's ring would be a [Spirit Visage]. Please understand that lol. Think before you downvote.

WTF NO DORANS RING?????????? casters need dorans ring wow i'm down voting

That's the why you have a build and I have another, we don't need to have the same opinion. I had a lot of games with vladimir too, enough to test a lot of items.

Don't try to prove that you are right and I'm wrong, if you don't take rabadon's first, ok. I accept your suggestion, thanks for sharing your opinion.

I already said why I think it's a better choice.

And, if you take an enemy with 40 magic resist (some ap that doesnt make magic resist) Abyssal will take of to 20, and void to 24. It's not that diference, but don't think in case of just one. Think about Abyssal gives a aura, it will reduces all enemies arround. For a gank, maybe void will be better, but since you will take abyssal in the late game, as the build says, you will not gank that much.

I really aprettiate your attention.

First things first, easily 700+ games of experience with Vladimir on my part. Pampering aside,

Not purchasing WoTA earlier is to shoot yourself in the kneecap and then attempt to run a marathon. It's moronic. The late-game benefits of the Will of the Ancients are next to none, unless you have a lot of Magical damage on your team. Every game I play, I ask my team "How many of us do magical damage?" and I buy my WoTA earlier or later based on that.
However, it's only 2135 gold to purchase for 80 AP, and 25% spell vamp. It's an early game-mid game item, and it should be purchased during that time, otherwise it's useless.

The "high-ap=more gank" argument is relatively flawed. You support your team far better, and give yourself a massive leg up in terms of team fights and 1v1/1v2/1v3's by having the earlier WoTA. Think of it like the Haunting Guise.
The HG is a phenomenal item that rips the enemies *** open and shoves a magical **** down it... early game. However late game, it falls off and becomes useless in comparison to other items that provide far more statistical bonuses. It's the same way with the Will of the Ancients, except inverted. Its classified as either a Tier 1 or 2 item, meaning that you get the best effects for your cash. A massive hunk of AP and a chunk of Spell Vamp, both in aura form may I add, give you more than enough incentive to purchase it. Sure, you can give yourself a bit more AP and give yourself perhaps maybe 40 more damage on your spells, but what does that do for your team when your Janna is running away at 10 hp because she gets focused? Nothing. Your entire team reaps benefits from having the item, not just specifically you.

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In terms of usefulness:
Will of the Ancients= 10/10
Rabadon's Deathcap= 7.5/10
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This is especially true in meta-based compositions. OH BOY, Vladimir is doing 65 more damage per Transfusion! Oh wait... the rest of the team died and the enemy got away with 200 health between the five of them...

Play a few arranged 5's games in the 1400+ ELO bracket, and tell me what happens when you buy a Will of the Ancients late in the game, if you even get that far into it. I guess it just comes with experience, and you can't be told.


Tl;dr version;

• WoTA is an early game god
• WoTA gives you sustain & damage
• WoTA assists your entire team in early fights. Early success= Late Victory

Ok, good suggestion, and I started from 0, after playing a lot with vladimir, no i didnt read your build... But i will do it soon :D

Well, i rather to have high ap, then i can gank more often

Survivability from WotA is very good, but only after mid game start the team fights, as well the utility from this item. So :D

take build
deduct warmogs
Post as original build on mobafire


Trolling aside, you REALLY need the Will of the Ancients early if you want it to be remotely useful. I can't stress this enough to Vladimir players. The scaling+usefulness for it really starts to fall off once you hit mid-game, and there are better options for purchases at that point. It's a core fundamental for Vladimir, and it NEEDS to be purchased early if you want to capitalize on the investment.

Secondarily, You don't need an Abyssal Scepter unless

• They have multiple AP carries, or their 1 AP carry is out of control.
• The other team is stacking Magic Resistance
• All of the above, and you want moar Ability Power and Magic Resistance.

The item just overall isn't really that good unless it's under those circumstances. It is THE definition of a situational item, and even at that; your tank should have it.

Void Staff does much more, and mitigates a massive portion of the enemies MR. The purchase benefits you more as an individual, because healing & regeneration rates are applied after resistances (since 4~6 patches ago), and as a group because of the damage you'll do when assisting people in getting kills.

Think it over, it's whatever.

+1

But what i would suggest is that u grab a Void Staff instead of WotA to give u some extra magic pen to destroy your enemies!