Malphite

[quote=Searz]How about Philo on Malph?[/quote]

[quote=Max Carter][quote=Searz] How about Philo on Malph? [/quote] phlio is great on every mana tanker... allow you to recover the gold invested during the game, and gives you money if you can't get assists... gives you early survability and sustain your lane and fights phase, alowwing you to spam abilities much more than nothing... late game, when you have a bigger mana pool: [[banshee's veil]] or [[frozen heart]] you don't need it anymore...[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I personally do that. ^ Getting Philo stone lets me get the tenacity item so I can grab the dodge boots and still tank easily.[/quote]

[quote=Max Carter][quote=Lugignaf] I personally do that. ^ Getting Philo stone lets me get the tenacity item so I can grab the dodge boots and still tank easily. [/quote] good thing too, I would love to do it and get dodge seals on every tank, but I don't like [[eleisa's miracle]]. I fell it ocuping 1 slot late game, and prefer [[mercury's treads]]. Question of opinion, but no, don't get clarity, for me, it's a shitty spell and shouldn't be chosen never... the only case you could is if you're a supporter without mana issues getting just to spam more and give the effect to your ally on the lane. But I still find clarity a crap. IMO[/quote]

[quote=Svingas]Philo was my first thought to solve his mana problem. Would you agree with starting Regrowth and a Mana Potion and then using your teleport to get Philo stone and boots ASAP?[/quote]

[quote=Max Carter][quote=Svingas] Philo was my first thought to solve his mana problem. Would you agree with starting Regrowth and a Mana Potion and then using your teleport to get Philo stone and boots ASAP? [/quote] sure, you should do this Start with regrowth and health potion, this allow you to farm early. Don't waste mana, your Q is horrible level 1. When you reach 365 (something around it), waste all your mana on the enemy, go back, get philo stone ASAP and go back to the lane, if possible get a ward... helps a lot on early ganks Level 3 or more you can harass very well with your Q. I usually keep leveling it if i'm in the lane, if the game is on teamfights and teampushes I start to get my E or W (for damage and anti-dps or for tankiness and good damage, respectivily). Q on level 3 is good for harass early, and gives speed buff + slow. I prefer getting W to fight...[/quote]

[quote=Svingas]I was actually thinking about waiting until you had 715 so that you could buy both Philo Stone and boots before you tele back. I definitely wouldn't just tele back with 365 unless I was doing horrible in the lane. But, which would be better, 440 for Philo and ward or waiting until you can get Philo and boots. Of course all of this could change if you are absolutely dominating your lane somehow and get first blood or even just a kill or so.[/quote]

[quote=Max Carter][quote=Svingas] I was actually thinking about waiting until you had 715 so that you could buy both Philo Stone and boots before you tele back. I definitely wouldn't just tele back with 365 unless I was doing horrible in the lane. But, which would be better, 440 for Philo and ward or waiting until you can get Philo and boots. Of course all of this could change if you are absolutely dominating your lane somehow and get first blood or even just a kill or so. [/quote] I prefer going back to get philo and a ward and wasting all my mana on the enemy 1- you will harass well before come back 2- you get a ward - confidence on lane, anti ganks, anti junglers 3- you get gold per 10 as soon as possible, if the game pass someting around 22 minutes after you buying it, congratulations, you're getting more money than you spent on the stone (as soon you get it, better) 4- mana regen -> more spells -> more farm/harass Boots can wait [:[/quote]