Malphite

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK][quote=The_Nameless_Bard] Rod of Ages [/quote] no. And frozen gives you nice mana, nice CDR, nice armor (which also converts to W damage), AND an AMAZING aura, for under 3k g. Anyways, you can just buy [[Glacial Shroud]] early game, and finish it later too if you want, still gives nice CDR, armor, and mana.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]lol wRAth. It does work no matter how weird you may think it is =P[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]no... you don't need AP on Malphite... his ult will tickle a little more as well as his Q, gg but you will die sooner since you will have less tanky items.[/quote]

[quote=Bloofyre][quote=Svingas] That would solve the problem very nicely. At what point would you suggest getting it? [/quote] right after you get that HoG...[/quote]

[quote=da_neo][quote=The_Nameless_Bard] Rod of Ages can help with mana problems on malphite. It also gives you some health, which is good. Frozen heart is also a good choice, but I think there are better items to rush. [/quote] This may not be a good choice, but [[Rod of Ages]] consist of two Items [[Catalyst the Protector]] and [[Blasting Wand]]. AP is totally NOT needed on Malphite, BUT [[Catalyst the Protector]] adds some great lanestaying power. It solves your mana problem quite neatly and also heals you, which basically suffice to compensate the harrasment you´ll get. So why don´t buy [[Catalyst the Protector]] for the lane and mid-late game build it to [[Banshee's Veil]].?[/quote]

[quote=Searz]VERY nice thread we got going here :) Like it has been said, good solutions to mana problems are(feel like summing it up): [[Teleport]] [[Meki Pendant]]->[[Chalice of Harmony]] [[Glacial Shroud]]->[[Frozen Heart]] [[Catalyst the Protector]]->[[Banshee's Veil]] [b][u][url=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=0-1-0-3-4-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree2=0-3-0-3-3-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree3=1-2-1-0-4-0-1-3-0-0-0-0-0-0-0]9/9/12[/url], [url=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=0-1-0-3-4-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree2=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree3=1-3-1-0-4-0-1-3-1-0-3-0-3-0-1]9/0/21[/url](EDIT) and [url=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree2=0-3-0-3-3-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree3=1-3-1-0-4-0-1-3-1-0-3-0-3-0-1]0/9/21[/url] masteries. DISCUSS![/u][/b] Bad/meh solutions: [[Clarity]] [[Catalyst the Protector]]->[[Rod of Ages]] [u][b]Mana-reg seals/glyphs. Not sure, but I think they're prolly kinda meh. GOGO discuss![/b][/u][/quote]

[quote=da_neo]Concerning the masteries: As Malphite is a Tank, I would build him as one. [url=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree2=0-3-0-3-0-4-2-0-3-4-0-0-0-0&tree3=0-3-1-0-4-0-0-3-0-0-0-0-0-0-0]0/19/11[/url] If you REALLY hunger for mana. Or[url=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree2=0-3-0-3-0-4-2-1-3-4-0-0-0-1&tree3=0-3-1-0-4-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0]0/21/9[/url] If you think you want more tanky and less manareg Mana-reg seals/glyphs are a terrible choice for a tank. You need that Armor/Magic Resist and seals/glyphs are the best for that. I'd rather take Teleport and take less damage than having good mana reg and die. Also: I´m a personal fan of armor/mr per level. This allows me to delay my core build to buy, let's say a [[Chalice of Harmony]] and still be tanky enough mid-late game.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Neo, the thing is that it's a much better idea to use utility for mana and runes for armor, MR and HP. It's just much more effective. Utility masteries are the most used masteries at high level play because they simply are better in most cases. When you need other masteries to survive the jungle or something like that is the only reason not to get utility masteries. On Amumu for example; I run 1/12/17. I go as far as I can into utility while grabbing the most essential masteries in defense.[/quote]

[quote=da_neo]Well, yes. I can understand that. I´m a fan of the utility mastery too. The only three thing I really like in defense are Hardiness, Resistance and Tenacity (also I'd like Riot to rename it as Tenacity is already a CC-Reduce factor ingame). The thing is, I like Tenacity really really really (repeat for unlimit profit) much. The thing is, I don't really have those mana issues due to my playstyle. Sometimes I wish for just 20 more mana to just land another [[Seismic Shard]] to finish him, but this happens VERY VERY rarely. Also I´d like to give my lane partner the kills, as don´t need them as much as carrys do.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]I'd never go more than 9points into the defense tree with Malphite. He just doesn't need it. Gogo utility~[/quote]