Stark's on Shaco?

[quote=JunSupport]I've been fiddling with Shaco builds. I really like getting a solid Attack Speed item on him, and Stark's has AS and the lifesteal bit I want too. I know that Twitch can't take Starks due to the aura giving away his stealth. Would the implications be just as bad for Shaco?[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]yeah when you decieve it would give away the fact that you're around, but it only lasts for four seconds. so by the time they realize its around its probably a little too late for them. i'd say its a good item for an ad shaco. although if there is another ad on the team it would be better for them to get it. help you be a little sneakier.[/quote]

[quote=Jet]no need for it, waste of gold, more important items you should be getting (madreds, infinity, banshee's. guardian angel)[/quote]

[quote=Dremu]Personally I see Stark's as a fail for any Stealth champ/Master Yi, This is because it wastes an item slot, yes it is okay for Yi but thats not what this thread is about, Shaco with Stark's could be okay, But I'd suggest asking for someone else to get it as to what Caucheka said. Stark's isn't the best thing to get on any stealthy champs via Twitch, Evelynn etc. have a Katarina get it for the team fights while you (shaco) are in those fights, It's better to have someone like her or Irelia with it than you.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@Dremu: From my experience, Starks is the king pin item for Sivir and Yi. >_> Once they have it and build heavy ad (generally infinity edge or blood thirster) they hit fast and hard. It also makes them cut down towers amazingly fast. Also, of all the champions to suggest getting Starks in my stead, why Katarina? =w= She doesn't have any use for AS or Life steal.[/quote]

[quote=Jet]starks is an item the support should be wearing, or dr.mundo should be taking it if you have him on your team but the problem with starks is it only benefits your carry. you building it on the carry means you're spending 2.9k on an item that doesn't make you do any more damage, and the problem for supports is they are spending 2.9k for one-two champions on their team.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]lol funny you mention that jet because i like starks on my aura whore maokai build. its really weird i know but its great with my passive and it helps out my carries.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@Jet: That's not an argument I can accept. Aura item doesn't =/= Support-Only item. Life Steal and Attack Speed can be useful on regular AD champions. That's why you'll see people using Bloodthirster over Infinity Edge in some scenarios. Also, Stark's is 2.55k What item are you looking at?[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995][quote=JunSupport] @Jet: That's not an argument I can accept. Aura item doesn't =/= Support-Only item. Life Steal and Attack Speed can be useful on regular AD champions. That's why you'll see people using Bloodthirster over Infinity Edge in some scenarios. Also, Stark's is 2.55k What item are you looking at? [/quote] Jet does have a point, to be honest. Since it's an aura item, it has significantly reduced stats (because those stats can conceivably be applied 5 times). Therefore, you'll get less damage for your money compared to a pure carry item.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@Trojan995: You'd have to work it out mathematically for me to believe you. 40% Attack Speed, 20% Life Steal, and 20 enemy Armor reduction is quite effective for 2.5k from my perspective. Sure it's not the best item, but better items are generally more expensive too, so it evens out quite proportionally. (Not even counting HP-regen since it has little combat value)[/quote]