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Creator: The_Nameless_Bard January 19, 2014 11:22am
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I honestly can't imagine that Ryze benefits from anything Turbo Chemtank gives besides its pure stats....he's not exactly its target audience from what I can tell.


I feel like he really likes the MS active from it as well as the stats.

Might not be 100% of their target, but it might be pretty good on him too.
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he just doesn't seem like he'd really need what mostly feels like an anti-kite item.
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Lugignaf wrote:


I feel like he really likes the MS active from it as well as the stats.

Might not be 100% of their target, but it might be pretty good on him too.


I havn't really played Ryze since the nerf(**** you morello), so I havn't tried this, but the only reason that I wouldn't get it as a first big item instead of Roa is the fact that Roa gives way more hp and mana(650 of each when fully stacked).
The active should be really amazing on him for catching bs champs(bs meaning everything with a good gapcloser) as well as for slowing other bs champs when running away(stuff like Udyr or Volibear).

I havn't really though about which item to replace by this, but the only real options are Banshee's Veil unless you desperately need the mr and the spellshield or Void Staff if no one builds mr for some reason.
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I wouldn't replace Void Staff with that. Void Staff is pretty much a core damage item for Ryze, isn't it?
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I wouldn't replace Void Staff with that. Void Staff is pretty much a core damage item for Ryze, isn't it?

It is, that's why i said "if no one builds mr" :)
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My point is that you should get Void Staff whether the enemy team is stacking MR or not, the same way you do on most mages. Even if they don't stack MR, it's worth having.

I can see replacing Banshee's Veil maybe, but even then is there any real reason to get Turbo Chemtank instead of that (besides it being built out of Catalyst the Protector) given that he already has a movement speed steroid built into his kit?
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Have to agree with Nameless, Turbo Chemtank seems like a pretty trash item for Ryze.
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I think it could be a decent snowball item. Ryze can have some trouble actually getting in Rune Prison range. It can be nicely combined with the ult and it's a great initiate for your whole team against kiting team comps. I wouldn't put it in a standard build though.
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I'd rather just ask the support (or some other tanky ally if there's someone like Udyr or Amumu) to get it...but maybe that's just me.
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Well, you're probably right, since I have nothing to back my statement up with ^^'

EDIT: I just noticed this might come across as sarcasm. It's not.
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