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[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=wRAthoFVuLK] Vlad dun counter Kat :P [/quote] Nope farm off. Slight advantage Kat.[/quote]

[quote=astrolia][quote=H4xDefender] I don't get sightstone on supports. I don't like being restricted to only 3 wards per slot, and 700 gold is a lot to blow at once as a support since you have nothing to build it out of. [/quote] [[Sightstone]] is equivalent to getting 50 gold per minute, and [[Ruby Sightstone]] is 68 or 75 gold per minute depending on how you want to count it. [[Philosopher's Stone]] works out to 30 gold per minute, and [[Kage's Lucky Pick]] is 24. So even at its "worst", [[Ruby Sightstone]] is better than both GP10s put together. It's really not a lot if you start [[Crystalline Flask]] + 4 [[Sight Ward]]s. The sooner you get used to s3 items, the better.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=astrolia] [quote=H4xDefender] I don't get sightstone on supports. I don't like being restricted to only 3 wards per slot, and 700 gold is a lot to blow at once as a support since you have nothing to build it out of. [/quote] [[Sightstone]] is equivalent to getting 50 gold per minute, and [[Ruby Sightstone]] is 68 or 75 gold per minute depending on how you want to count it. [[Philosopher's Stone]] works out to 30 gold per minute, and [[Kage's Lucky Pick]] is 24. So even at it's "worst", [[Ruby Sightstone]] is better than both GP10s put together. It's really not a lot if you start [[Crystalline Flask]] + 4 [[Sight Ward]]s. The sooner you get used to s3 items, the better. [/quote] ^this exactly. Also its*[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]I didn't say it was bad, I said I don't like it for my own reasons. I prefer rushing items that will help my team snowball to win and not just some hp and wards.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=H4xDefender] I didn't say it was bad, I said I don't like it for my own reasons. I prefer rushing items that will help my team snowball to win and not just some hp and wards. [/quote] No but I'm saying that you are shooting yourself in the foot by not getting the [[Sightstone]].[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]How so? In lane I get my 1-2 wards to cover ganks, then I grab a cloth/ruby crystal and force exchanges on enemies who only build sightstone and snowball with kills.[/quote]

[quote=astrolia]So what are you going to buy for 1300 gold that will have as much impact as nearly always being able to have a ward on you and having enough HP to help your carry fight in lane w/o dying instantly? 3 [[Ruby Crystal]]s? Also GMD you saw nothing. ( ¬╭╮¬)[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=astrolia] So what are you going to buy for 1300 gold that will have as much impact as nearly always being able to have a ward on you and having enough HP to help your carry fight in lane w/o dying instantly? 3 [[Ruby Crystal]]s? Also GMD you saw nothing. ( ¬╭╮¬) [/quote] I'm sorry I did, but I'm very discrete :P[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]I just grab an early aegis/zekes and by the time the enemy sightstone starts paying off, I already have auras to help my whole team win fights. Just my 2 cents.[/quote]

[quote=astrolia]That buying strategy is completely reliant on starting team fights ASAP so the enemy support will have like a half-finished item. You end up spending more money on wards overall (unless you don't ward at all) meaning the enemy support will end up richer than you over the course of the game. Unless, of course, you're getting over9k assists compared to the other support, in which case the game is just a stomp anyway and you could be building anything. :V My 2c, obv.[/quote]