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Why don't the gods at Riot Games want me to get...

Creator: Thalia Kael September 5, 2013 5:20pm

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Did you pick a Veigar into Swain or did they pick Swain into Veigar? Because either way, it was a bad pick, imo. Swain's quite tanky and sustainable, so bursting through him is kinda difficult. :/
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And I'm in awe of how I somehow outfarm Draven and Lux who had barely any problems (Lux had none) while I basically sat afk between two turrets for 10 minutes.

In the second game I posted, Naut was pretty above average, Shen was good, it was the duo bot that was the main problem for most of the game. I swear it's always the duos. They fed like crazy and did basically nothing all game despite our team's camping. I was getting told to worry about myself for saying things like "cmon bot", not even "wow this bot" or "report this bot" etc. I didn't really need to worry about myself because I was destroying Swain despite Nocturne's camping, farming really nicely and was killing enemies while roaming. I don't really know why I would need to worry about that situation when my bot is like 0/10 and their Graves is 8/0. That's what I should be worried about. After that though we did some teamfights and came ahead but ended up losing because first my team decided to do Baron (I was dead). This isn't the team's fault though since I supported the idea, I think we just went a bit late due to hesitation. We got aced and they pushed an inhib and nexus tower. Then me and Blitz get caught because we have 2 wards max on the map and because I didn't expect the enemy team to be there.

See, I made some mistakes. But what bothers me is that not only did I outperform the enemy doing the same role (and pretty much everyone else too), but that I GET ****ING BLAMED BY VAYNE AND BLITZ BECAUSE I GOT CAUGHT ONCE. WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO SURRENDER AT 20 IF NOT FOR ME. MAYBE IF YOU HAD ACTUALLY GOT SOME GOLD IT WOULDNT HAVE BEEN SUCH A BIG DEAL THAT I GOT CAUGHT ONCE.
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koksei wrote:

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Well we had lost 2 bot turrets and almost the 3rd and at that point Graves was legendary and our bot was basically AFK and I turned their Graves into a 10/10 and won teamfights for us and caught enemy players with my stun and instabursted everything and pushed the mid inhib down so yeah I think that was pretty acurate considering she said the only reason we lost was because of me.
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sirell wrote:

Did you pick a Veigar into Swain or did they pick Swain into Veigar? Because either way, it was a bad pick, imo. Swain's quite tanky and sustainable, so bursting through him is kinda difficult. :/

I picked Veigar into Swain and I think it was a pretty strong pick because look at the results of our matchup. Unless you want to say that I made up for a bad matchup through skill. That's okay too.

And I think burst counters sustain, I mean you can't really sustain if my ult does 1900 dmg before the amplification from DFG and from the bonus damage based on his ap. Not counting DFG itself and my 2 other spells.
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Ah, the DFG. I see now.
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Also what annoys me are the people that call and pick jungle and obviously have never seriously played the role before, like missing smites, getting counterjungled (not because of the matchup), NOT ****ING GANKING ANYTHING, etc

Actually this goes for all the roles (except the examples)
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sirell wrote:

Ah, the DFG. I see now.

Yeah I had like 1150 AP
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let me put it to you like this, the reason you aren't winning all your games is because you aren't much better than your teammates nor smarter.

Review of da games.
Game 1:
You just said that akali got FB and a double buff and she was 2 levels in front of you, why didn't you buy defense then? If you had gotten double 400 magic resist items you would've been able to countertrade an aggressive akali even with FB.

Game 2:
You're a fed veigar against a nocturne and an aatrox... Why didn't you get a GA so your team at least had some time to peel for you after you die, because with that build you won't be doing many deeps after your initial combo because 1 you're dead or 2 you will be if you try to - you even said yourself that your ult deals 1900 damage to swain without amplification from DFG so why limit yourself to such a squishy build? Also lol at executioner shen - crit's where it's at.

And that's just about your builds. That's not accountint the fact that you probably got caught late which arguably is the supports fault but even then - that can't happen when you're hardcarrying.
A general rule of thumb, if you're getting flamed there is a reason for it so you might wanna listen to at least half of it.
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Regardless of Nunu feeding or not in your first game I can see a very obvious mistake-Akali was getting fed and yet you continued going for your damage items while you should have at least bought a Hexdrinker to survive in lane.

Second game you mention that you and Nautilus helped bot lane a lot and yet I see only 4 kills on Vayne which kinda tells me that more then likely the kills your team got in bot didn't go to her.Also since you were so fed and so well farmed why did you go full on glass cannon instead of picking up so defensive stats?Also how did Graves get to be 8.0 at one point in bot, did you try to prevent that from happening once you say bot die a few times?


Advise-Since you are around my skill level or at least my elo you have to keep in mind that win or loose there was always something you could have done better in those games (troll/afk/intentional feeder games aside) even doing something as little as keeping morale up by saying things like : Don't worry we got this,it's alright (when your teammate makes a mistake) can help a lot.Also I know that faulting champions isn't the best advise ,but if you really want to increase your chances at winning perhaps you should consider playing champions that can carry games easier Veigar while dealing huge amounts of damage is really limited by his cooldowns (especially the way you built him).

I'd like to give you more useful advise ,but since I have never played with you I can't help that much and sadly screenshots don't tell a full story of the match.



Edit: I didn't see that Pølsemanden already pointed out the lack of defensive items.

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Doesn't matter how well you do.

CARRYING a game means WINNING IT.

I've went 10/2, 9/1, 8/2 ALL on mid laners and still lost. Is it "my teams fault?" No. It's my OWN fault for not being able to punish enemy mistakes.

If you wanna climb, change your mentality and work on IMPROVING, not on getting plat.

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