7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=MungoGeri][quote=H4xDefender]Going to go out on a limb and just say it right now; I don't think the buffs are going to change the jungle tier list all that much. Zac, Skarner, and Nautilus MIGHT be worth playing, but I'm not too certain about that yet. What I do feel fairly certain about is that Sejuani will be tier 1, and amumu will get bumped up.[/quote] Having tried them out on the PBE, I think [[nautilus]] will be high tier 2 and maybe sneak into tier 1. [[Volibear]] should go from tier 3 to tier 2. The new jungle item and the mildly faster jungle clear really help him.[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]But Cinderhulk is going to easily be the most cost efficient item in the game though. I mean 1150'gold for a burning passive 25% bonus health and 350 health, And even if you aside the cost of the jungle item in you still get a passive from that So it's now effectively jungle/top lane Stalkers Balde with Cinderhulk enchantment.[/quote]

[quote=Aeadar][[dr. mundo]] will be really [s]fun[/s] annoying with the 25% bonus health coming back again, he'll be even more un-killable than he already is right now.[/quote]

[quote=MungoGeri][quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]But Cinderhulk is going to easily be the most cost efficient item in the game though. I mean 1150'gold for a burning passive 25% bonus health and 350 health, And even if you aside the cost of the jungle item in you still get a passive from that [/quote] To get Cinderhulk, you have to buy the first two tiers of jungle items first -- so the total cost is 2000g. You can buy [[bami's cinder]] for 1000g, but it's considerably weaker than the full Cinderhulk or [[sunfire cape]] that it can upgrade into.[/quote]

[quote=Blian]the dmg you get from Cinderhulk (if you build it into your jungle item), does it stack up with sunfire cape if you also buy that one too?[/quote]

[quote=VexRoth][quote=Blian]the dmg you get from Cinderhulk (if you build it into your jungle item), does it stack up with sunfire cape if you also buy that one too?[/quote] According to the devs they do not stack.[/quote]

[quote=Blian]too bad..[/quote]

[quote=MungoGeri][quote=Blian]the dmg you get from Cinderhulk (if you build it into your jungle item), does it stack up with sunfire cape if you also buy that one too?[/quote] No, they're the same named unique passive. On [[nautilus]], I've been working a [[liandry's torment]] into my build as my 5th or 6th item. That way, when he spams his [[riptide]] during a teamfight, he's doing pretty good damage to all of the enemies around him. This also works well for [[rammus]].[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112]Naut buff is similar to buff that made Liss viable her low cd cc spam slow on q. Naut e is similar now to that high base dmg, gonna be low cd. I think with jungle naut your going to put maybe 2-3 points in w then max e now. I think out of all the tank junglers sej, naut and zac will be the best just for there cc and zac even if buff seemed minor is huge you know how much he can lock you up now with e and ult.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]that's literally what saint said in his preview that being said I'm looking forward to naut top looks good in theory[/quote]