7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=H4xDefender]No open wi-fi at the venue and I don't have data left on my phone, so I won't be able to update/answer questions for most of the day. Won 2-1 yesterday so my team will be playing on azubu.tv/summonerscon3 around 2 As for taric, I think hes ok at support. Haven't seen him top but I think its ok as well.[/quote]

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[quote=rankupColdbolt]I must read up on these Taric top lanes. Just to say, from 50,000 of the most recent games taken in from the RIOT API, 149 of them had a Taric in them and he has a 53% winrate. He's actually got a better winrate than Jax with a 52% winrate therefore whoever the hell is currently playing Taric, knows what the fuck is going on. In other words, Taric top might actually be legit but without a trends tool on [url=http://rankup.gg]rankup[/url], I can't tell right now.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]Honestly, the only good thing about [[Taric]] is that he still has a targeted stun, so no effort is required to buttonmash his other AoE skills to burst morons.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=The_Nameless_Bard]Honestly, the only good thing about [[Taric]] is that he still has a targeted stun, so no effort is required to buttonmash his other AoE skills to burst morons.[/quote] Not really the only thing. He's a decent laner and can shut down a lot of mobility + he's really good vs multiple AD teams or in a meta that tends to delay armour pen (like this one). His weakness has always been that he just doesn't offer much but aura's in teamfights and that its almost impossible to stun important targets without flash, but in a more snowbally meta that is compensated for.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]He's on the radar for a rework from what I've heard, I just haven't felt like he was worth playing for a long time.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]Not going to say he's super strong all of a sudden, but he's pretty good in certain situations. He can shut down someone like Kalista/Graves/Lucian pretty well in the early game and transition well into late as long as it's versus primarily physical damage.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]The targeted stun on [[Dazzle]] is most of what makes him consistent though, isn't it? It really just requires being in range and nothing else, which always seemed like one of the main reasons he used to be such bullshit when [[Shatter]] was really strong. It was pretty hard kill him when [[shatter]] wasn't on CD and you couldn't easily win trades against him either because [[Dazzle]] into [[Shatter]] on your ADC would drop their armor by a decent amount and there was very little counterplay for it since it never really required any skill to pull off. [[Shatter]] is still nice against a lot of AD because armor aura, which you can't get in an item anymore, but it's kinda been nerfed pretty hard at this point.[/quote]

[quote=Joxuu]Opinion on cinderhulk vs warrior enchantment for [[rek'sai]]? Item changes and jungle changes prefer enchantment warrior more than cinderhulk so in my opinion warrior is proabably better but what's your opinion?[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Simply Warrior because games end early and early tankyness isn't as important as damage. Even if you need tankyness afterwards, ad+hp items are still strong, especially the buffed [[frozen mallet]]. If you go [[enchantment: cinderhulk]], you should also get [[grasp of the undying]]. BTW: Get [[heal]] on support now, [[exhaust]] on ADC.[/quote]