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7.4 Tier List + AMA

Creator: H4xDefender February 20, 2014 5:06pm
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Well, Rammus is garbage atm anyway as you can't rely on any teammates.


If teammates were the issue for Rammus it'd hardly be a problem at higher elo. He has a slow clear, relies heavy on ganks and his engage is very one-dimensional and you can literally see it coming.

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thoughts on my ekko comment though?

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thoughts on my ekko comment though?


I would imagine Ekko still has the same two builds. The AP one being slightly modified by Runic Echos.
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Kayle is ridiculously underrated. Pick her into someone with low kill potential toplane and you'll get freewin @ soloqueue.

Just use this page and go fervor of battle or thunderlords
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Isn't that the case with like, other champions as well?
Like uuuuuhh....Ryze? Fiora? Tahm Kench?

Basically MOBAFire.
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got a ton of projects due soon so i havent been able to respond as much as i like. gonna try updating this weekend in a video form though, since ill have some free time.

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zilean is hard to explain in a paragraph, im going to address him specifically in the video

runic echoes udyr is nuts. gives him actual burst threat and makes him run way too fast once he has swifties

ad assassins are garbo

fixed trundle

nautilus is decent top because hes a poppy counter as well as a flex pick. mundo getting nerfed helps him rise in the "tank top laner" niche as well

yeah that build is alright, wouldn't really do it on zac tho

rammus is taunt bot, if hes too squishy to get in and taunt then hes useless. taunt doesnt persist after you die as well, so he needs to survive.

runic echoes ekko into tank isnt bad

kayle is ok, but there arent a lot of low threat top laners around atm. ryze/fiora/graves/poppy/quinn etc
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I think you need to try her out. The runes i listed paired with fervor of battle and items as following: Nashor's, Swiftness boots, Guinsoo's, Rapid firecannon/Phantom Dancer, Rabadon's and Void staff(ofcourse there are situational items aswell).

Out of the champions you listed i think the only ones who really pose a threat towards her in lane are fiora and graves but haven't played the matchups yet. I thought the quinn matchup would be tough but I played vs a Challenger Quinn and it really wasn't, even without armor on runes. If you avoid her Q you beat her in trades from level 3 or smth. You outscale her, and you're stronger in skirmishes post 6. All lanes are manage'able for her if she can push from level 1, and she HEAVILY outscales most toplane champions in 1v1's. I believe she'd be a tier 1 toplaner if she had good teleport pressure. Her teleport pressure is bad and her amazing splitpushing gets weaker from it since you kind-of need to teleport early if a fight breaks out, most preferably before. Talking mainly about soloqueue.
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I already see all those Singed players running around with Rylai's, Zz'Rot and Dead Mans Plate, toxic days. They even add Banner sometimes.
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i like getting rylais on kayle. makes her autos slow for 40% when she uses e.

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Been seeing a lot of Karma top recently. Thoughts on it?

I think that towards the mid game she does quite a large amount of damage, and synergizes quite well with the engage / disengage heavy meta.
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