About vayne

[quote=MyRepublic]I pretty much know nothing about [[Vayne]]. What I wanna know is: What AD carries are good against her, what AD carries does she beat, who supports her well, what supports are good against her, etc...[/quote]

[quote=Vavena][[Vayne]] doesn't do well against anyone really, since her early game is so weak. Her job is to get by with as much farm for late game as she can. The hardest lanes for her to deal with are ones that have [[Corki]], [[Ezreal]], [[draven]].[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]She can do quite well with some comps, but she's very support dependant early game. However, in mid/low elo she gets very underestimated easy (or overestimated by the person playing her), so she can either grow absurdly fast, or be useless for most of the game. AD Carries good versus Vayne are mostly those Vavena cited, since they can trade easy (Vayne players like to [[tumble]] for harass) and have very nice mobility. However, 1 vs 1 early pretty much any carry can beat Vayne, so it's all a support thing. Good supports for Vayne are: [[Alistar]] (coz he saves her ass examplarily), [[Blitzcrank]] (on mid/low elo grabs aren't too hard to land and she can E the carry making it pretty much a free Kill), [[Taric]] (free stun, free tumble, 1 or 2 free W stacks) and [[Nunu]] (mobility and attack speed. She loves it). I suppose [[Leona]] can also make things work well (first hit triggers Leona's passive, second might do it too, third triggers Vayne's W) Good supports versus her are those that can help burst her down fast in lane: [[Taric]], [[Sona]]'s poke, [[Leona]]. She's really squishy early on.[/quote]

[quote=MyRepublic]Thanks for the quick replies. I'm talking to my friend who claims vayne beats almost all adc's in lane including ez and I said that didn't sound right. I'd still like more input though. He claims that just because no one agrees with him so far doesn't mean he's wrong. He's very hard headed.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]Only character i would really pick vayne against would be Ashe. She can't take advantage of vaynes short range as much as any other ad-carry. And at level 6 vayne can with a cleanse just eat ashe alive, with no dash or speedbuff vayne can easily get a pin off on ashe. But then again, i don't play vayne.[/quote]

[quote=Vavena][quote=FalseoGod] She can do quite well with some comps, but she's very support dependant early game. However, in mid/low elo she gets very underestimated easy (or overestimated by the person playing her), so she can either grow absurdly fast, or be useless for most of the game. AD Carries good versus Vayne are mostly those Vavena cited, since they can trade easy (Vayne players like to [[tumble]] for harass) and have very nice mobility. However, 1 vs 1 early pretty much any carry can beat Vayne, so it's all a support thing. Good supports for Vayne are: [[Alistar]] (coz he saves her ass examplarily), [[Blitzcrank]] (on mid/low elo grabs aren't too hard to land and she can E the carry making it pretty much a free Kill), [[Taric]] (free stun, free tumble, 1 or 2 free W stacks) and [[Nunu]] (mobility and attack speed. She loves it). I suppose [[Leona]] can also make things work well (first hit triggers Leona's passive, second might do it too, third triggers Vayne's W) Good supports versus her are those that can help burst her down fast in lane: [[Taric]], [[Sona]]'s poke, [[Leona]]. She's really squishy early on. [/quote] [[Vayne]] is good with [[alistar]], [[sona]], [[soraka]], [[janna]], and [[nunu]] (maybe [[taric]]). Do not pair her with supports like [[leona]] or [[blitzcrank]]. Vayne is all about farming and avoiding early trades or fights, while [[leona]] and [[blitzcrank]] excel at early aggression. That forces [[vayne]] into risky situations bot, while she could be safely farming for late game instead.[/quote]

[quote=MyRepublic]Don't you hate it when someone continues arguing even though everyone says they are wrong and you give them reasons why? God he's so stubborn.[/quote]

[quote=Vavena]Haha yes, happens ^^[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden][quote=Vavena] [quote=FalseoGod] She can do quite well with some comps, but she's very support dependant early game. However, in mid/low elo she gets very underestimated easy (or overestimated by the person playing her), so she can either grow absurdly fast, or be useless for most of the game. AD Carries good versus Vayne are mostly those Vavena cited, since they can trade easy (Vayne players like to [[tumble]] for harass) and have very nice mobility. However, 1 vs 1 early pretty much any carry can beat Vayne, so it's all a support thing. Good supports for Vayne are: [[Alistar]] (coz he saves her ass examplarily), [[Blitzcrank]] (on mid/low elo grabs aren't too hard to land and she can E the carry making it pretty much a free Kill), [[Taric]] (free stun, free tumble, 1 or 2 free W stacks) and [[Nunu]] (mobility and attack speed. She loves it). I suppose [[Leona]] can also make things work well (first hit triggers Leona's passive, second might do it too, third triggers Vayne's W) Good supports versus her are those that can help burst her down fast in lane: [[Taric]], [[Sona]]'s poke, [[Leona]]. She's really squishy early on. [/quote] [[Vayne]] is good with [[alistar]], [[sona]], [[soraka]], [[janna]], and [[nunu]] (maybe [[taric]]). Do not pair her with supports like [[leona]] or [[blitzcrank]]. Vayne is all about farming and avoiding early trades or fights, while [[leona]] and [[blitzcrank]] excel at early aggression. That forces [[vayne]] into risky situations bot, while she could be safely farming for late game instead. [/quote] I'm sorry vav, i don't quite aggree with sona n soraka. They can't really peel anything off vayne whatsoever lategame in teamfights, nor can they early against a offensive lane - tristana, blitzcrank, alistar etc.[/quote]

[quote=Vavena][quote=Pølsemanden] [quote=Vavena] [quote=FalseoGod] She can do quite well with some comps, but she's very support dependant early game. However, in mid/low elo she gets very underestimated easy (or overestimated by the person playing her), so she can either grow absurdly fast, or be useless for most of the game. AD Carries good versus Vayne are mostly those Vavena cited, since they can trade easy (Vayne players like to [[tumble]] for harass) and have very nice mobility. However, 1 vs 1 early pretty much any carry can beat Vayne, so it's all a support thing. Good supports for Vayne are: [[Alistar]] (coz he saves her ass examplarily), [[Blitzcrank]] (on mid/low elo grabs aren't too hard to land and she can E the carry making it pretty much a free Kill), [[Taric]] (free stun, free tumble, 1 or 2 free W stacks) and [[Nunu]] (mobility and attack speed. She loves it). I suppose [[Leona]] can also make things work well (first hit triggers Leona's passive, second might do it too, third triggers Vayne's W) Good supports versus her are those that can help burst her down fast in lane: [[Taric]], [[Sona]]'s poke, [[Leona]]. She's really squishy early on. [/quote] [[Vayne]] is good with [[alistar]], [[sona]], [[soraka]], [[janna]], and [[nunu]] (maybe [[taric]]). Do not pair her with supports like [[leona]] or [[blitzcrank]]. Vayne is all about farming and avoiding early trades or fights, while [[leona]] and [[blitzcrank]] excel at early aggression. That forces [[vayne]] into risky situations bot, while she could be safely farming for late game instead. [/quote] I'm sorry vav, i don't quite aggree with sona n soraka. They can't really peel anything off vayne whatsoever lategame in teamfights, nor can they early against a offensive lane - tristana, blitzcrank, alistar etc. [/quote] This is what I learned from experience and was told by plat players. You are free to disagree though.[/quote]